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  • Joe Burns
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    It seems as if there is a feeling going around that Lady Bird will be honored by giving Laurie Metcalf the Supporting Actress Oscar and nothing else with frontrunner Allison Janey losing in an upset.

    This is certainly a possibility- people love the performance(not really sure why, but that’s okay), Metcalf is very well respected, and the movie is insanely popular(not really sure why that is either, but that’s okay too I guess). Janney could lose votes due to the character who from what I can tell(haven’t seen the film yet) doesn’t have a redeeming factor while Metcalf’s character arguably does. Lady Bird also has a lot more support in the Academy then I Tonya which failed to get nominated for Best Picture and does not have the Best Director nomination(and popularity/respect of Greta Gerwig) that Lady Bird has. People also say that Janey will be looked down upon as more of a TV actress when compared to Metcalf(although people have stated that Metcalf is no stranger to TV either, implying that that’s not a valid thing against Janey), especially given that Metcalf is as an experienced, not to mention Tony-Winning, “theatre actress”(but guess what, Janey’s done theatre too! but will Oscar voters know that?) .All of these are pretty good reasons for why this upset is plausible. And isn’t Supporting Actress supposed to be “the wildcard category” at the Oscars?

    But I myself am doubtful that this will happen- Janey is insanely popular in the industry right now and is a great, talented actress that deserves industry recognition. Metcalf, despite being a little older and having more credits, is just not as popular in the same way that Janey is in my opinion. Yes, it is true that Supporting Actress is a category with a history of upsets, but we’ve arguably never had such a a strong frontrunner lose with the exception of Lauren Bacall losing to Juliette Binoche in 1996. Janey’s won the main three awards AS WELL AS THE BAFTA, which is an incredibly strong factor in her favor. Metcalf has not been able to put a dent in that and more importantly neither has anyone else in the race either. If the race was a little more competitive, then Metcalf’s chances would be higher: Spencer and Mary J. Blige are definitely not winning and even with Phantom Thread’s strong showing at the Oscars this year, Lesley’s Manville’s chances of prevailing are very slim. In a more competitive three way race(or 4 way race), things would be different although that scenario could arguably hurt Metcalf more given that she and Janey could split the “monster mom” vote and allow another contender to win . All and all, I just don’t see a strong enough case for Metcalf being able to overcome Janey’s massive sweep at this point.

    What do you think?

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    Stegeo
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    Is this thread really necessary? Metcalf isn’t winning.

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    Anonymous
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    If any of the 4 actors loses, it’s Janney. And Metcalf would beat her. But I still doubt it.

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    janbryan
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    I certainly feel that there would be an upset in one of the 4 acting races as a complete sweep (Oscar, SAG, Golden Globes, Critics Choice, BAFTA) for all 4 races never happened before in a single year. Of all the 4 races, I feel that this category has the strongest possibility for an upset and Metcalf could prove this statistic.

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    heyoranges
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    you guys need to move on. SA is fixed. Janney is winning this.

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    Diet Teridax
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    If any of the 4 actors lose, it will be Sam Rockwell due to vote-splitting with Woody Harrelson and people wanting to give Willem Dafoe a career win. Rockwell win still win though, just like he did at the Globes and Critics’ Choice, and even previously overcoming vote-splitting to triumph at SAG and Bafta.

    Allison Janney is just as much a lock for Supporting Actress as Gary Oldman is for Lead Actor and Coco for Animated Feature. Don’t have false hope or expectations for anything else on Oscar night.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    Gain
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    No

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    amar1998
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    If the academy really reward “great performance” over popularity, Metcalf sure will win for that airport scene.

    Allison Janney was good in I, Tonya, but not Moni’que level of a performance.

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    CitizenBlake
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    Janney gives a very JK Simmons in Whiplash performance – commanding in every frame. But it just isn’t as good as Metcalf’s more textured performance. Janney will win, and in most years it would be an okay winner, but it simply isn’t deserving this year for the simple fact that Metcalf was around (btw, I don’t know how anyone could prefer Janney and her one-dimensional cartoon, Metcalf is all about accentuated nuance with her performance, to me that’s more Oscar worthy).

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    Diet Teridax
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    Janney gives a very JK Simmons in Whiplash performance – commanding in every frame. But it just isn’t as good as Metcalf’s more textured performance. Janney will win, and in most years it would be an okay winner, but it simply isn’t deserving this year for the simple fact that Metcalf was around (btw, I don’t know how anyone could prefer Janney and her one-dimensional cartoon, Metcalf is all about accentuated nuance with her performance, to me that’s more Oscar worthy).

    To me, Allison Janney was all about range and realism, with her restaurant scene alone meriting that Oscar, where she goes from smug and slightly contemptuous to outright bitter to white-hot rage in less than a minute, like a tidal wave of raw, disturbing, emotional intensity. She was as far from being one-dimensional or cartoonish as one can get. She also had the scene where she was taping her daughter, her telling her daughter at her wedding Jeff was no good and that marrying him was a mistake, and that knife scene! She was very psycho, but anyone who can appreciate nuanced acting can see the tinge of guilt in her face after she sees that she made her own child bleed. Metcalf’s seemed far more one-dimensional, where the only emotionally challenging scene she had was the crying scene in the car at the end of the movie. For me, I can’t help but feel that tons of other actors could have played Metcalf’s role as well as her, while only Janney could have played Lavona Golden to the nuanced and disturbingly detailed perfection that Janney was able to.

    Just my own opinion, and while yours may be completely different I still respect it all the same.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    rghmf
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    They prefer Metcalf’s performance and probably talk about the possible upset so much as wishful thinking. But I don’t think so, Sam Rockwell’s caracter is the epicenter to the backlash for Three Billboards and I feel that Dafoe is a bigger possibility of an upset than Metcalf.

    Janney won all the other main awards same as the other 3 did. I really don’t see any reason to discuss, could be an upset yes but it could be main actress with Ronan or Timothee in main actor.

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    Miles
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    Who was saying that Metcalf will win in an upset that caused you to make this thread? I never saw any sense of that.

    Anyway, as much as I desperately want Metcalf to win this, there’s no way. This is locked up. There’s not much to discuss.

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    Aameson
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    If any of the 4 actors loses, it’s Janney. And Metcalf would beat her. But I still doubt it.

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    Janney gives a very JK Simmons in Whiplash performance – commanding in every frame. But it just isn’t as good as Metcalf’s more textured performance. Janney will win, and in most years it would be an okay winner, but it simply isn’t deserving this year for the simple fact that Metcalf was around (btw, I don’t know how anyone could prefer Janney and her one-dimensional cartoon, Metcalf is all about accentuated nuance with her performance, to me that’s more Oscar worthy).

    Be thinking about that when Janney wins the Oscar.

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    manalemel
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    I don’t think Metcalf will be the upset, should an upset in the acting races occur.

    Dafoe has always been my pick for Oscar night, and going with my gut, right or wrong, I still believe he will be the name read that night.

    Then again, with how mediocre a year it’s been, it could very well be all 4 who have been winning who get the gold dude.

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    chocofudge
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    People also say that Janey will be looked down upon as more of a TV actress when compared to Metcalf(although people have stated that Metcalf is no stranger to TV either, implying that that’s not a valid thing against Janey), especially given that Metcalf is as an experienced, not to mention Tony-Winning, “theatre actress”(but guess what, Janey’s done theatre too! but will Oscar voters know that?) .

    For your kind information, Janney is also a ‘serious’, respected theater actress who is not only a two-time Tony nominee but she was also a part of so many acclaimed plays.

    Not only that but Janney is also a bigger name than Metcalf in the movie world as she was a part of several popular films like Juno, American Beauty, The Hours and The Help along with Hairspray and Spy. So Janney actually has an enviable film resumé unlike Metcalf.

    So sorry to rain on your parade but Janney is no Stallone and Metcalf is certainly no Rylance 😉

    List of awards and nominations received by Allison Janney

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