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    RIDLEY SCOTT
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    Today at Cannes, Paul Verhoeven said very powerful words: “I don’t give a fuck about #MeToo and #CancelCulture”. I agree with Paul Verhoeven but I’m not American so I want to know about American’s point of view. It seems Hollywood and the USA is obssessed about #MeToo and #CancelCulture. It’s the reason why people on Twitter tried to cancel dead legends like Marlon Brando, Bernardo Bertolucci, Sean Connery, Kirk Douglas, Alfred Hitchcock, Stanley Kubrick and John Wayne

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    It will implode soon, it’s reaching hysterical levels.

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    It’s so difficult to separate the art from the artist, Picasso was a misogynist, Wagner and Ford were Nazis, the former Presidents of USA were racists and had slaves, even to this day The Presidents of USA are racist and xenophobic, the only one that didn’t hide that feeling was Trump. But anyway, you can’t change the past, Will the anti Nazis stop buying Ford cars and listening Wagner music? Will the feminists stop admiring Picasso’s talent?, in conclusion the human being Will always be imperfect.

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    Im not an American either but i’ll give my two cents.

    I don’t buy it, I condemn their behaviour BUT to deny their capacity as an artist is abysimal. The art that they have made aren’t representation of their abusive behaviour or what they truly are and you cant dismiss what other crews have done just simply because of one person.

    Amber Heard-Johnny Depp case marked the death of MeToo movement and someone in old thread has the audacity to say that its Disgusting to defend Depp. At the end of the day, people still talk about Kubrick, Hitchcock, Spacey’s best works as an actor (American Beauty), the list goes on.

    By a stretch, if the verdict of an abusiveness defined by the wrong person, David Fincher could be considered as abusive too.

    FYC:
    Best Director: Edgar Wright, Guillermo Del Toro, Jane Campion
    Best Picture: Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog
    Best Actress: Kristen Stewart, Thomasin McKenzie, Rooney Mara, Tessa Thompson
    Best Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper
    Best S. Actress: Cate Blanchett, Diana Rigg, Anya Taylor Joy
    Best S. Actor: Kodi Smit McPhee, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins

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    I’m not American either, I’m British but let’s face it there is no such thing as ‘cancel culture’.

    If such a thing was any kind of reality there wouldn’t be a new Kevin Spacey film in production. Instead he’d be in jail, not being paid and not having people willing to work with him.

    Also a court found Depp to be an abuser. He would be out of all work too if cancel culture was any kind of reality.

    We live in a world where powerful people get to do whatever they want and they aren’t subjected to the consequences.

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    I’m not American either, I’m British but let’s face it there is no such thing as ‘cancel culture’. If such a thing was any kind of reality there wouldn’t be a new Kevin Spacey film in production. Instead he’d be in jail, not being paid and not having people willing to work with him. Also a court found Depp to be an abuser. He would be out of all work too if cancel culture was any kind of reality. We live in a world where powerful people get to do whatever they want and they aren’t subjected to the consequences.

    Yeah, I also find it totally hilarious how people talk about cancel culture as if it, you know, existed.

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    Yeah, I also find it totally hilarious how people talk about cancel culture as if it, you know, existed.

    sadly, it does exists. when JK rowling made a comment about transgender everyone went nuts and things like “I dont want to watch Harry Potter anymore” “Goodbye my Harry Potter book collections” “I will stop buying any Wizarding World materials” were everywhere

    When Eminem wrote insulting lyrics on female popstars SJWs tried to cancel eminem with similar narration. and for someone who said the Court declared Depp as abuser, you must be confused its decision with his lawsuit against The Sun (another crappy media, at least in Football community) where the court rejected his lawsuit.

    long short story, it does exists. you either turn a blind eye or you’re one of them

    FYC:
    Best Director: Edgar Wright, Guillermo Del Toro, Jane Campion
    Best Picture: Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog
    Best Actress: Kristen Stewart, Thomasin McKenzie, Rooney Mara, Tessa Thompson
    Best Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper
    Best S. Actress: Cate Blanchett, Diana Rigg, Anya Taylor Joy
    Best S. Actor: Kodi Smit McPhee, Willem Dafoe, Richard Jenkins

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    Who?

    Personally I couldn’t give a shit what men say on this matter, it’s simply not up to them. It’s OUR discourse and I hope they’re scared tbh.

    Bill Hader and Barry in everything (2 babka)
    The Great - Elle Fanning, Nicholas Hoult and comedy writing and directing

    Severance in drama series, writing, Adam Scott for best actor, Ben Stiller for drama directing, and the whole cast in supporting.

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    sadly, it does exists. when JK rowling made a comment about transgender everyone went nuts and things like “I dont want to watch Harry Potter anymore” “Goodbye my Harry Potter book collections” “I will stop buying any Wizarding World materials” were everywhere

    When Eminem wrote insulting lyrics on female popstars SJWs tried to cancel eminem with similar narration. and for someone who said the Court declared Depp as abuser, you must be confused its decision with his lawsuit against The Sun (another crappy media, at least in Football community) where the court rejected his lawsuit.

    long short story, it does exists. you either turn a blind eye or you’re one of them

    Yes I too was sad when the transphobic JK Rowling just stopped publishing books and making millions because she was ‘cancelled’.

    Oh wait, she released two books last year and earned a reported $60mn. People turned their back on her because of her transphobic views, which they are allowed to do.

    Eminem makes a reported $20mn a year.

    Chris Brown is a convicted abuser. Yet he’s still making music. The music is still played on the radio worldwide. The music still gets to the top of the charts.

    And the court rejected Depp’s lawsuit because they found that the abuse claims were ‘substantially true’. He’s an abuser in the eyes of the courts.

    You cannot say cancel culture is any kind of reality.

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    Yes I too was sad when the transphobic JK Rowling just stopped publishing books and making millions because she was ‘cancelled’. Oh wait, she released two books last year and earned a reported $60mn. People turned their back on her because of her transphobic views, which they are allowed to do. Eminem makes a reported $20mn a year. Chris Brown is a convicted abuser. Yet he’s still making music. The music is still played on the radio worldwide. The music still gets to the top of the charts. And the court rejected Depp’s lawsuit because they found that the abuse claims were ‘substantially true’. He’s an abuser in the eyes of the courts. You cannot say cancel culture is any kind of reality.

    Thank you. We should really stop pretending that bad people face repercussions for their terrible actions just because a few people on Twitter say they won’t buy their stuff anymore. And even if that happened, there would be absolutely nothing wrong with it. It’s not like anyone is legally obliged to buy Harry Potter stuff/listen to Eminem/watch Kevin Spacey movies/… when they don’t want to and don’t feel comfortable with it.

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    I find the reactions to specific situations to be particularly ambivalent and it’s quite strange how much people can’t abstract from on-screen and off-screen faces. Let’s just take Phylicia Rashad’s comments from few days ago. You can check out the GD reactions in the Drama Emmy prediction forum. So far, there has been talk of how much Rashad is overdue for Emmy recognition, and now everyone as one person is rooting for her to miss and many urging the idea that she should lose her career & job because of her post. I mean, of course, I can’t identify with what she said either, but I accept that’s her opinion. She’s clearly friends with the man – and friendships/relationships are complex.

    I’m sure you wouldn’t distance yourself from a close friend right away just because it turns out that they did something unforgivable. It doesn’t matter what it is all about, your relationship can be so multi-dimensional that you see through the whole situation and even though you condemn the act itself, you also see your troubled friend beyond the awfulness.

    I’m not saying Rashad did that because she basically ignored the facts, but the bias she attaches to her friend is something that’s out of her control. And based on her comments, she shouldn’t lose her career by any means, just because cancel culture and ten-year-olds on Twitter are outraged that someone’s off-screen personality isn’t as sympathetic as they thought.

    But we could go through any artist or celebrity. We don’t know these people. They can be either nice or mean/messy. Or maybe both as people are way more complex than that. Felicity Huffman used her rich privilege, which plunged her into trouble, but in the meantime, according to all her colleagues, she was one of the most supportive, dearest cast-members around. Not in vain has Hollywood hasn’t dragged her so much and are ready to readmit her. People are not perfect, and as long as no abusers, killers or a rapists are allowed back in the business, I think everyone deserves a second chance including Huffman, Loughlin or Rashad.

    FYC 2022 Emmys:

    Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"

    Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"

    Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"

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    Paul Verhoeven said very powerful words: “I don’t give a fuck about #MeToo

    he directed Showgirls and Elle, so yeah.

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    #CancelCulture is ineffective. Bad behavior is always rewarded. Prime example: the election of America’s 45th President.

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    #CancelCulture is ineffective. Bad behavior is always rewarded. Prime example: the election of America’s 45th President.

    I will say Trump is the exception and not the rule. He is a Billionaire. He is very charming and funny in a dark way. His problem is his huge ego. It seems he always is making things for his own ego and nothing more.

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    Im not an American either but i’ll give my two cents.

    I don’t buy it, I condemn their behaviour BUT to deny their capacity as an artist is abysimal. The art that they have made aren’t representation of their abusive behaviour or what they truly are and you cant dismiss what other crews have done just simply because of one person.

    Amber Heard-Johnny Depp case marked the death of MeToo movement and someone in old thread has the audacity to say that its Disgusting to defend Depp. At the end of the day, people still talk about Kubrick, Hitchcock, Spacey’s best works as an actor (American Beauty), the list goes on.

    By a stretch, if the verdict of an abusiveness defined by the wrong person, David Fincher could be considered as abusive too.

    Make it make sense?????

    But anywho, it is disgusting to prop up abusers just because of their work. All of the incels wanting Spacey to stay on set just so they can get an ending they want to sacrifice the people who he harassed for example is complete and utter trash. And this is after the fact that it’s pretty clear that Spacey just played himself throughout his entire career and just made his trash personality entertaining for viewers, which barely makes him a good actor. And Depp is the same way. You want to make sure that a man that abused his wife (which before the loons come after me, she did as well but that’s not the point of this discussion because you excuse him just because y’all liked his movies), but also sent texts threatening to kill her, burn her, and rape her burnt corpse afterwards, stay employed to set the same example for your sons to follow?

    The separate the art from the artists arguments are absolute trash because no matter what, you are still supporting that person and propping them to be influential regardless to repeat their offenses.

    And the random ass cancel culture, as if it actually works 💀 you literally have Kevin Spacey making a comeback soon. People complain about it but it never actually happens because more people will defend trash than they defend the victims.

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