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    https://deadline.com/2019/04/oscar-eligibility-vote-ampas-netflix-board-of-governors-1202600968/

    The Academy Board of Governors tonight made several rule changes for next awards season. Not among them: a rumored reckoning over eligibility for films generated by streaming services like Netflix.

    “We support the theatrical experience as integral to the art of motion pictures, and this weighed heavily in our discussions,” said Academy President John Bailey in a statement put out by AMPAS late Tuesday after the organization’s annual Rules meeting had wrapped up.

    “Our rules currently require theatrical exhibition, and also allow for a broad selection of films to be submitted for Oscars consideration,” the halfway through his term Bailey added. “We plan to further study the profound changes occurring in our industry and continue discussions with our members about these issues.”

    Going into tonight’s meeting of the 54-person board of governors of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, pointed criticism that was expressed (and then unexpressed) by Steven Spielberg and others, and a warning expressed by the Justice Department about excluding Netflix seemed to set up a potential confrontation.

    Instead, the board left intact Rule Two, the one that established that a film can be eligible for Oscars if it has a minimum 7-day theatrical run in a L.A. County commercial theater. That theater has to have a minimum of three screenings each of those seven days for paid admission, and that those movies can be released on streaming sites on or after the first day of their theatrical qualifying run.

    As it seemed to be all last Oscar season when it instituted and then removed a Most Popular Film Oscar and then hired and lost Kevin Hart as host, the Academy is facing serious decisions in the fast changing way that the world consumes movies.

    Tonight, by not excluding Netflix films from competition the way that the Cannes Film Festival did, the Academy has left itself open to the influence of changes that will become more exacerbated as more major studio-backed streaming services get underway.

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    Why do we lose? Netflix is making fantastic material, and it should be recognized. The Academy may be opening themselves up to stronger influence by the current changing times, but what’s wrong with that? The Emmys have always kept up with the changing way television is consumed, and they honestly have a much better reputation than the Academy does at this point. Do we really want to stay in the antiquated ways of the past? Whether or not you enjoyed Green Book, you can agree that it was a very 90s pick of the Oscars. There were so many other, more progressive (and in my opinion, better) movies that had a better idea of the pulse of today like BlacKkKlansman, The Favourite, and The Hate U Give that were snubbed on various levels for an objectively more antiquated film. Do we really want to stay in the ways of the past? What makes them so great? The Oscars’ biggest issue is their resistance to moving forward into the future, and if they do it the way the Emmys do, then they have nothing to be afraid of. They’ll have a better reputation overall, and people won’t be as frustrated with their picks every year.

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    Atypical
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    Wrong again. The “viewer” now has access to films that would never receive wide distribution in the normal theatrical windows. Streaming/VOD is the future. Bury your head in the sand for as long as you like, but it won’t change anything.

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    eastwest
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    He did all this TALKING and couldn’t be bothered to show up?! What a lame. Hopefully the olds will realize that this is the future and kindly shut the fuck up moving forward.

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    BenitoDelicias
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    We didn’t lose shit. We won.

    Many people get the chance to make their films thanks to Netflix and have the ability of exposing their work to many more audiences now. I have to asume that Roma was seen by a much, MUCH larger audience than that of an obvious limited release in the US and certain countries here and there. Even with 10 Oscar nominations and all those reviews. Same goes for things like Mudbound or that Idris Elba film from a few years ago.

    There’s also Documentaries which many people never got the chance to see and even Live Action Shorts that deserve to be seen by a large audience. I doubt many of those who are Netflix critics have ever seen a Short at a movie theater. I doubt that many critics have even heard of a Short playing at a theater near them.

    Theaters are just gonna have to find a way to fight or keep up with the times as many other industries do. Figure it out.

    But in this case, we all won.

    As for this thread and the original post, all we have to do is wait until Kristen Bell or a future Netflix film she’s in gets Oscar buzz. I bet you that on that day it’ll be: “Netflix wins…us too”.

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    vinny
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    I’m glad Netflix won. They make some great movies and I’d rather see a great movie get recognition than a subpar one.

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    kellis
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    This title is so dramatic lol.

    Anyways, hopefully this brings out better films than what we were given this year. The streaming movies that have been released so far during Oscar season have been either great or pretty good versus some of the theatrical-released movies we had to endure this past year, and I’m sure they’ll continue to keep up this standard. I also have to laugh at Spielberg not showing up to the meeting.

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    ospencer
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    I’m glad. Someone Great on Netflix was AWESOME and Lakeith Stanfield will probably be in my personal lineup for Best Supporting Actor.

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    DvirBA
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    If you ask me Netflix don’t only kill cinema (they absolutely do IMO) but they are also killing the traditional Television format I love so much.
    Release 25 shows a month everyone will watch in their phone at their spare time. Soon there wont be any new phenomenons like GoT and The Sopranos anymore

    and this decision is awful…
    too bad

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    dorseyhorsey
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    lmao oh stop with the drama. They will probably only have one or two movies in contention any given year anyway, if that. Most of their original projects end up being trash, even the ones that look prestigious on pedigree.

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    If you ask me Netflix don’t only kill cinema (they absolutely do IMO) but they are also killing the traditional Television format I love so much. Release 25 shows a month everyone will watch in their phone at their spare time. Soon there wont be any new phenomenons like GoT and The Sopranos anymore and this decision is awful… too bad

     

    GoT is on a channel that you have to pay extra for… Netflix is a subscription that you pay for… why does it matter to you if they are all released at once or periodically? It has no affect to your life whatsoever. They also aren’t killing the traditional television format because they never started with that in the first place! Also what was the point of talking about TV when this has to do with the Academy allowing streaming movies to be nominated at the Oscars…

     

    This thread is so dramatic and stupid😂 If a movie is good enough to be rewarded than it deserves the opportunity to get those awards, simple as that!

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    I’m just waiting for a year, two years from now when Stephen Spielberg announces a lucrative deal with Netflix to produce a string of movies for them. You All Know It’s Coming Eventually.

    And lord knows they’ll be bloated, over-hyped, effects-heavy, bores with no plot to speak of.

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    Noah Arlington
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    Lmao I’m so over this boomer take.

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    Babygirl
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    The only thing that makes me gag about Netflix being accepted is that 99% of their films suck imo, there’s like 1 film like Roma with 6 The Kissing Booth’s every year.

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    Noah Arlington
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    The only thing that makes me gag about Netflix being accepted is that 99% of their films suck imo, there’s like 1 film like Roma with 6 The Kissing Booth’s every year.

    lol isn’t that the Hollywood film industry in a nutshell?

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