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  • Chris Beachum
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    Discuss the film in this thread.

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    Colin Powis
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    I’ll get about 7-8 oscar noms

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    Manav
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    Cate Blanchett is the only reason I want to watch this film.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Planning on seeing this movie on Thursday. I loved the 1947 version and have read the novel it is based on too. I love the trailer and am curious about the less than stellar reviews. I love noir films and am looking forward to it.

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    Colin Powis
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    I think that BP will be won by either W S S or N A (probably the former)

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    wolfali
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    I thought the final act was a bit clumsy. It felt a bit rushed through and when it pandered towards melodramatic “twists” the film really lost its charm that by the end of it I just was like “is that it?”

    That being said I did still find it quite an entertaining film and the first two acts were very riveting. Admittedly I went into this quite blind and was expecting this to be more of a genre piece but was pleasantly surprised by its noir-ish elements and thought GDT made some interesting choices behind the camera. I wouldn’t consider this film to be one of the 10 strongest of the year but considering what else was being tipped for a Best Picture nomination over it I feel somewhat relieved that it made it in (I’d probably place it 5th personally if I were to rank this year’s BP nominees although I still need to see Dune and Licorice Pizza).

    I understand the complaints about Blanchett’s work here not being particularly novel but I just thought she was absolutely sensational when she was on screen and really made the most of her material in all the best ways. I also thought Collette was a nice presence even if she more or less disappeared after the first half an hour of the film. Cooper was ok? I’ve seen love/hate reactions to this performance but I felt neither. I didn’t think he was terrible by any means but at the same time I wouldn’t give him an Oscar nomination for what essentially felt like a Don Draper impression.

    FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.

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    Manav
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    I got to be honest. I had lost any enthusiasm to watch this film but I did just because it was nominated for Best Picture. I just finished watching the film.
    Loved it.

    Guillermo Del Toro is a master craftsman. What he does here on a technical level is chef’s kiss. I mean Cate Blanchett’s office along should get Nightmare Alley the Oscar for Best Production Design. I thought the Production Design was the highlight along with the Cinematography. It was stunning crisp and contrasting Cinematography which really worked well (esp.in the first meeting between Cooper and Blanchett). I thought the Score was good (not great) but quite good and I was aware of its presence at many places. Now this will be shocking- I thought the sound was incredible. There’s a scene where Blanchett puts down a glass of wine on the table and the echoes emanated from it was like WOW. Makeup was creepy and I guess it was designed to be so but I did not like it that much. Costumes were nice but we’ve seen these before (although the scene between Mara and Jenkins had Mara wearing a stunning piece). The screenplay was nice but the directing is what really pulls the movie together. Del Toro manages to incorporate so many things on so many levels, it was staggering. Too sad he was snubbed. VFX in a Rooney Mara scene was really good but the makeup at various places turned me off. I thought the editing could have cut some things and reduced the time.

    Now the acting. I don’t think the Ensemble is as strong as some people say it is. I think the individual performances shine over the ensemble. Cooper is excellent in the role and while I thought he was okay in the beginning,he really started biting into the role after the carnival scenes. I think he was perfectly cast. Blanchett was terrific and while she has just about 20 minutes in a 150 minute film,she really casts a huge impression. Her final scene was the high point of the film with some stunning work at both technical and acting levels. Jenkins stood out to me really good, because he was able to convey so much with just a glance and he really made me believe in all that his character says. Mara was good and her moments are scattered but she does her job well. It wasn’t a flashy role so it makes senses why people didn’t take notice of her. Collette was okay in the first hour but there is just one scene after the carnival ones where her character is there and that scene was like “Toni Collette special”. Her eyes were more expressive than Ron Perlman’s whole perfomance in the film. David straitharn was also good and I thought he was the best perfomer in the first hour. I didn’t like Willem Defoe.

    I got to say that the first half was okay,the second half was great but the last half was phenomenal. I couldn’t take my eyes off for a second. It goes bonkers and I enjoyed it a lot. Blanchett-Jenkins-Cooper go beserk (even Mara). I thought the ending was a really nice completion of a circle and a good thought to end it in. There is one scene in the beginning where there is explicit violence towards animals and I loathed that scene.

    I wish this was made available early. I would have definitely voted for it in mutiple categories in GD Awards. Rooting now for a win in Production Design (Blanchett is deserving of her nomination at SAG and I don’t think this was an easy role. It was really tricky and she made it dangerous yet calming yet malicious).

    Score- 9.5/10. One of my five favourite films of the year.

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    I understand the complaints about Blanchett’s work here not being particularly novel but I just thought she was absolutely sensational when she was on screen and really made the most of what her material in all the best ways.

    Couldn’t agree more. She’s my fave, but even I did not think her performance would slay as much as it did. Especially her last scene with Cooper was just incredible.

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    I found this well-made and enjoyable, but not without some flaws. I liked the carnival setting, because it’s so unusual and grotesque. Like every movie by Guillermo Del Toro, it looks great but it also has kind of a predictable arch. The movie for me really took off only when Blanchett’s character entered the story, but I found the other secondary characters underdeveloped, especially Molly (Rooney Mara) and Zeena (Toni Colette). You spend enough time with them that you want to understand them more, but you never do. Bradley Cooper was good, but he was truly great in that last scene.

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    Now this will be shocking- I thought the sound was incredible. There’s a scene where Blanchett puts down a glass of wine on the table and the echoes emanated from it was like WOW.

    Why’s that shocking?

    Definitely excellent sound design here (both mixing and editing), it’s a shame not enough people in that branch were able to see the movie for the longlists, otherwise it probably would have been nominated.

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    I loved this movie, I found it amazing, it was like a painting.

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    Manav
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    Why’s that shocking?

    Because sound is the thing people rarely highlighted in reviews about this film but to me skilful sound design felt like a heartbeat of the film.

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    Zuranthium
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    The funny thing is, at the Nightmare Alley premiere, one of the sound designers was there and the host announced them to the crowd and trumpeted their achievement right before the screening. I’d say it’s the best sound mix in a Del Toro film and I agree, these details are rarely discussed, but deserve to be.

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    I thought this film was pretty good overall. The technicals were obviously stellar. My standouts from the cast were Blanchett (she’s making it even harder for me to settle on a personal top 5 in supporting actress) and DaFoe (very surprised that I’ve seen some people say they didn’t really like him). Bradley Cooper was good but not great I felt. I wouldn’t say he was miscast or anything, but I almost wish they cast someone a bit younger for the role. Toni Collette was also good but had a tiny role with nothing to really do.

    My main issue was the screenplay. The first 3rd- half almost- felt extremely bloated, and then the final act was so rushed. My main gripe though, is that Rooney Mara’s character was paper thin. I wish they repurposed the first act to develop her character’s relationship with Bradley Cooper’s, so that I would have actually rooted for them as a couple and felt at least somewhat surprised by the fact that he ends up cheating on her. That being said I did really enjoy the climax and the conclusion of the film (even though I sort of saw it coming from a mile away).

    I can see how this ended up making the best picture list because the craftsmanship that went into making this film was truly top notch.

    7/10

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