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    Well, Goldderby’s own Tom O’Neil famously coined the “slap the stud syndrome” theory, which could apply on some level to Gyllenhaal. The theory being that in you are a swoonworth, handsome young leading man type, there’s a lot more resistance from the old men past-their-prime in the Academy to properly reward you. I’ve always though that theory might have a few holes in it, but it’s not entirely without merit.

    Personally, I think Gyllenhaal makes it too obvious how much he wants the recognition, and that’s like a red flag to a bull for voters. He’s an outstanding actor, but the desperation to be part of the awards circus is palpable. It makes it easier to resist a young guy who really wants it. He’s got money, fame and looks….we can hold back on the nomination, and he’ll survive.

    Christian Bale managed to get recognised by the Academy with a win, even before Leonardo Dicaprio, by adopting a careful pose of “not really caring about awards”. To voters, that made Bale seem cool. And not desperate. And they’ll vote for a guy like that. He’ll do a couple of Batmans and Terminator Salvations with no expectation of any type of awards recogition, then he’ll mix it up with his famously committed body transformations. If Gyllenaal came acroos as unbothered by the whole oscars/awards ride as Bale, I think he’d have more success. but he’s out there writing personal notes to critics groups for nominating him.

    Bale probably does care as well. He just hides it much better than Gyllenhaal.

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    He is trying too hard. Too many failed Oscar bait roles. Once he leads a great film, he will get in easily.

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    I would have nominated him for Nightcrawler and Nocturnal Animals – but he wouldn’t make it in for Stronger for me.

    I do rate him in it, but there were better performances this year. Stronger didn’t factor in anywhere with precursor noms. Washington did at the Globes at least.

    The Nightcrawler snub can be put down to the genre/style of the film not being in sync with the Academy at the time.

    Nocturnal Animals just didn’t go down well with Oscar voters.

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    Personally, I think Gyllenhaal makes it too obvious how much he wants the recognition, and that’s like a red flag to a bull for voters. He’s an outstanding actor, but the desperation to be part of the awards circus is palpable. It makes it easier to resist a young guy who really wants it.

    But Leo was like super thirsty for that Oscar too,  he was trying hard for it and many times, and he was also a screen heartthrob at one point (Titanic), he just  finally checked all the boxes with  The Revenant.

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    He still has time. He has a versatility that most actors in his age range don’t have. I agree that if he’s in another best picture contender he’s in.

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    Personally, I think Gyllenhaal makes it too obvious how much he wants the recognition, and that’s like a red flag to a bull for voters. He’s an outstanding actor, but the desperation to be part of the awards circus is palpable. It makes it easier to resist a young guy who really wants it.

    But Leo was like super thirsty for that Oscar too, he was trying hard for it and many times, and he was also a screen heartthrob at one point (Titanic), he just finally checked all the boxes with The Revenant.

    Leo was super-thirsty. But unlike Jake, Leo hooked up with the most respected director in the game, and as a result, became much harder to ignore.

    Do not get it twisted. Dicaprio enlisting Martin Scorsese to become his muse was the game changer in his career.

    I can easily see an alternative reality where Dicaprio is basically just like Jake. Working hard, giving strong performances. With good or even great directors. But not having a partnership with someone like Scorsese. And just being repeatedly ignored.

    If Gyllenaal had become Scorsese’s regular muse, he’d be on at least 4-5 nominations, because of the associated respect an actor gets for being Scorsese’s “main guy”.

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    Well, Goldderby’s own Tom O’Neil famously coined the “slap the stud syndrome” theory, which could apply on some level to Gyllenhaal. The theory being that in you are a swoonworth, handsome young leading man type, there’s a lot more resistance from the old men past-their-prime in the Academy to properly reward you. .

    This happens a ton, and it needs to die. It makes no sense how we got three It Girl winners in the forms of Lawerence, Stone and Larson all in their twenties in nearly back to back years, yet you have to be going into your 40’s to win Best Actor and damn near in retirement age to win Best Supporting Actor.

    I think this is exactly what is happening to the likes of Hammer, Gosling, Stan, now and also with other younger actors in their prime such as Brad Pitt, Johnny Deep and as mentioned before Gyleenhaal and Leo in the 90’s and early 00’s.

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    Not everyone is nominated for everything excellent that they do.  Gyllenhaal is excellent often enough that another nomination is inevitable.

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    Leo was super-thirsty. But unlike Jake, Leo hooked up with the most respected director in the game, and as a result, became much harder to ignore. Do not get it twisted. Dicaprio enlisting Martin Scorsese to become his muse was the game changer in his career. I can easily see an alternative reality where Dicaprio is basically just like Jake. Working hard, giving strong performances. With good or even great directors. But not having a partnership with someone like Scorsese. And just being repeatedly ignored. If Gyllenaal had become Scorsese’s regular muse, he’d be on at least 4-5 nominations, because of the associated respect an actor gets for being Scorsese’s “main guy”.

    Then it’s not Gyllenhaal’s  thirst and desire for recognition per se that is an issue here and a put off for voters, but him being thirsty while working with wrong people. He simply needs to hook up with right directors/producers/etc. and he’ll finally get nominations.

    Not everyone is nominated for everything excellent that they do.

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    Jake in Nightcrawler >>> Eddie Thirstmayne in standard british oscar bait

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    yet you have to be going into your 40’s to win Best Actor and damn near in retirement age to win Best Supporting Actor.

    Eddie Redmayne was 33 when he won Oscar as Best Actor.

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    Leo was super-thirsty. But unlike Jake, Leo hooked up with the most respected director in the game, and as a result, became much harder to ignore. Do not get it twisted. Dicaprio enlisting Martin Scorsese to become his muse was the game changer in his career. I can easily see an alternative reality where Dicaprio is basically just like Jake. Working hard, giving strong performances. With good or even great directors. But not having a partnership with someone like Scorsese. And just being repeatedly ignored. If Gyllenaal had become Scorsese’s regular muse, he’d be on at least 4-5 nominations, because of the associated respect an actor gets for being Scorsese’s “main guy”.

    Then it’s not Gyllenhaal’s thirst and desire for recognition per se that is an issue here and a put off for voters, but him being thirsty while working with wrong people. He simply needs to hook up with right directors/producers/etc. and he’ll finally get nominations.
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    I disagree. Being Scorsese’s muse is the ultimate sign of recognition for a male actor. It confers respect no other director can give you, no matter how great they are. His collaborations with DeNiro were so singular in the history of film, that a bit of it rubbed off on Leo in terms of how the industry percieved him. There’s no comparison.

    Jake has worked with Denis Villenueve (twice), David Fincher, Ang Lee, Jean Marc Vallee, Sam Mendes, Tom Ford, Jim Sheridan, Edward Zwick, John Madden, David O. Russell (albeit in his worst film).

    For an actor his age (or any age really), that’s an insane group of directors. Villenueve aside (who is one of the most respected auteurs on the planet right now) every one of those directors has garnered Oscar recognition (nominations or wins) for their actors/actresses.

    Jake is not working with the wrong people/directors. He is in fact, working with all the right people/directors, because none of them struggle with Academy recognition. Yet he’s still only got 1 Oscar nomination to show for it.

    Like I said, probably only a regular partnership with Scorsese could confer that respect-by-association to help by-pass the thirst/slap-the-stud issues that befall Gyllenhaal.

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    yet you have to be going into your 40’s to win Best Actor and damn near in retirement age to win Best Supporting Actor.

    Eddie Redmayne was 33 when he won Oscar as Best Actor.

    Yes – please pick apart my point by listing the age of one actor instead of seeing the plethora of evidence continuously supplied in the fact that the average Best Actor/Supporting Actor nominee’s all lie within the range of 40-60 years.

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    Gyllenhaal earns every moment in Stronger, but part of the problem is that the soulful, emotional slot was taken already by Chalamet.

    Washington and Oldman have the role itself and the performance to support them in the awards circuit, not to mention decades of work over Gyllenhaal.

    Day-Lewis is a god in the acting branch (well, this year second to Chalamet, who will probably be baptizing infants and sacrificing goats at a multiplex near you), and the talk of this being his “final” role as well as the warm reception Phantom Thread guaranteed him a slot as well.

    Kaluuya is the “sailer”, sailing to this nomination on the wings of Get Out and its rapturous reception, and, of course, the perfectly-conceived timing with all the recent developments in Hollywood (and Academy) politics.

    Life can always nearly be boiled down to high school student council elections.  And sadly, Gyllenhaal just isn’t the varsity football player promising vending machines in every hallway…

    He’s too busy committing to truth.  And that’s okay…  One look at his filmography, and it’s clear his work has, is, and will speak for itself.

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