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Hmm, they obviously didn’t. It was seen/hyped-up as a unique achievement that has to be nominated for Best Picture. But it was snubbed all around the key categories. No director or screenplay mentions, no acting nominations. They have clearly seen the film as a critical achievement.
The general body still got Black Panther nominated and voted for its 3 wins. Without Shallow as a competitor, it would have won original song too. It also won SAG ensemble. There was genuine industry support even if it was lacking above the line categories.
Michelle (Yeoh, Williams) Oscar campaign manager.
FYC:
Best Picture: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Decision to Leave
Best Director: Park Chan-Wook Todd Field
Best Original Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Actor: Colin Farrell
Best Actress: Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Tang Wei
Best Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson, Ke Huy Quan
Best Supporting Actress: Kerry Condon, Nina HossThe general body still got Black Panther nominated and voted for its 3 wins. Without Shallow as a competitor, it would have won original song too. It also won SAG ensemble. There was genuine industry support even if it was lacking above the line categories.
I still wouldn’t say it was beloved in the literal sense. I think most people thought it was an important piece that has to be highlighted, but it clearly had a lack of passion during the awards race, not to mention pretty average audience support (unlike with similar films – as genre flicks – like Get Out or Mad Max: Fury Road) It’s really not that big of a phenomenon to win multiple creative categories (Dunkirk, Inception, The Bourne Ultimatum). If I’m right, alongside Selma, Ford v Ferrari, and War Horse, it’s the only Best Picture nominee in recent history that hasn’t been nominated for directing/writing/acting.
Don’t get me wrong, its cultural impact is unquestionable, but I don’t think it’s actually seen as a masterpiece and I definitely don’t think that it was beloved in 2018.
FYC 2022 Emmys:
Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"
I still wouldn’t say it was beloved in the literal sense. I think most people thought it was an important piece that has to be highlighted, but it clearly had a lack of passion during the awards race, not to mention pretty average audience support (unlike with similar films – as genre flicks – like Get Out or Mad Max: Fury Road) It’s really not that big of a phenomenon to win multiple creative categories (Dunkirk, Inception, The Bourne Ultimatum). If I’m right, alongside Selma, Ford v Ferrari, and War Horse, it’s the only Best Picture nominee in recent history that hasn’t been nominated for directing/writing/acting. Don’t get me wrong, its cultural impact is unquestionable, but I don’t think it’s actually seen as a masterpiece and I definitely don’t think that it was beloved in 2018.
I agree. Black Panther is not a masterpiece and is a mediocre popcorn flick. I find it alarming how it was brought up in the Oscar ceremony of 2018 which it was not even eligible for that year.
Michelle (Yeoh, Williams) Oscar campaign manager.
FYC:
Best Picture: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Decision to Leave
Best Director: Park Chan-Wook Todd Field
Best Original Screenplay: Banshees of Inisherin, Everything Everywhere All At Once
Best Actor: Colin Farrell
Best Actress: Michelle Yeoh, Cate Blanchett, Tang Wei
Best Supporting Actor: Brendan Gleeson, Ke Huy Quan
Best Supporting Actress: Kerry Condon, Nina HossYou couldn’t bother to spell out Viola Davis’ name in the Best Actress thread and now you’re doing the same with Chadwick? I don’t want to read into it, but yikes. They have names!
Hun, people do this to white people all the time. Calm down hun, it isn’t that serious. Lmao
It wasn’t even about that. I was about the seemingly intentional choice not to refer to them by their names while referring to everyone else by their names. You’re obviously allowed to dislike the movie and the performances.
It really wasn’t intentional, it was my sense of humor since I am predicting both Boseman and Davis to win but hoping for others to win – it was tongue in cheek and not meant to be at all disrespectful.
Funny how some (not all) of the fans of Hopkins who are going on about how his BAFTA win means he’ll win the Oscar are the same ones who said BAFTA are irrelevant for nominating so many people of colour this year simply because Hopkins won for a British film that BAFTA loved over a dead black man.
Hmm I wonder why.
FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
Funny how some (not all) of the fans of Hopkins who are going on about how his BAFTA win means he’ll win the Oscar are the same ones who said BAFTA are irrelevant for nominating so many people of colour this year simply because Hopkins won for a British film that BAFTA loved over a dead black man.
Hmm I wonder why.
Makes total sense since the nominations were decided by a small jury but the general membership chose the winners. It doesn’t mean that Hopkins will win, but certainly his win was more informative than the nominations
It really wasn’t intentional, it was my sense of humor since I am predicting both Boseman and Davis to win but hoping for others to win – it was tongue in cheek and not meant to be at all disrespectful.
Hun, don’t even bother. Luca has called everyone that criticizes Ma Rainey and Viola a racist.
Funny how some (not all) of the fans of Hopkins who are going on about how his BAFTA win means he’ll win the Oscar are the same ones who said BAFTA are irrelevant for nominating so many people of colour this year simply because Hopkins won for a British film that BAFTA loved over a dead black man.
Hmm I wonder why.
Last I check the front runners: Boseman, Hopkins, Ahmed were all nominated here and Hopkins won with ALL the members voting NOT with a bias jury.
Makes total sense since the nominations were decided by a small jury but the general membership chose the winners. It doesn’t mean that Hopkins will win, but certainly his win was more informative than the nominations
My whole point was that for weeks and weeks a lot of racist users on here went on about how “the winners at BAFTA will be irrelevant” etc etc due to the fact they nominated multiple people of colour and now a white man wins for one of the films BAFTA liked the most this year and all of a sudden “Hopkins is 100% winning the Oscar?”
It doesn’t make any sense. One can’t cherry pick things.
FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
The virgin Hopkins vs The Chad Wick Boseman
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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.You don’t have to make a case to why Ma Rainey is not a weak contender overall to justify that Boseman is winning. Ma Rainey IS a weak film and people don’t really care about it. That’s the truth. But Chadwick not being in a strong contender didn’t change anything for his chances IMO. This Picture/Actor stat is not that strong to begin with. It’s like the sole Best Actress nom stat that Juliane Moore broke when she won. It was a 11 year stat like this Picture/Actor stat.
Does anyone here think that Viola would’ve prevailed there without Chadwick?
Yes. Without a frontrunner in Actress, the best bet for that category was always going to be the SAG fave with a showy performance.
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