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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.Paltrow won because she was a legacy child, Harvey Power and she was expected to be the new Grace Kelly (lol). It was a combo of hype but mostly Harvey Power. Plus, her SIL character was enchanting so I can see a lot ot voters actually liking her more.
That said, Blanchett in Elizabeth stood the test of time, is still considered a benchmark.
If the main argument against Chastain that Tammy Faye is not known among British voters (the absurdity of this discussion is what killing me), then she’s good to go. Also, the more people know the real life character, the more they get critical about a portrayal. Critics said Chastain is transformative and that will be repeated by everyone else from now on.
Also, what is this nonsense about the Academy being different than 10 years ago? It surely changed, but arguing that megastars Sandra Bullock and Jennifer Lawrence wouldn’t overcome complete newcomers and USA-wise unknown French ladies is pretty random. This category was made of ‘it girls’/transformative performances/Hollywood superstar winners since the beginning of time. Gabourey Sidibe, Carey Mulligan, Emmanuelle Riva would still lose to this very day. Heck, I was team Mulligan last year, but we witnessed how she cannot gain support ten years after her breakthrough even today. She struggled way through awards season because no actor organizations had her back. Even her own people betrayed her in the BAFTA jury. And then she’d be winning against Hollywood’s darling Sandra Bullock? In which planet?
FYC 2022 Emmys:
Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"
I always thought Blanchett was the best choice of that year until I watched Central Station. F.Montenegro was the true deserved winner. (Blanchett would also have been a great choice. But Paltrow isn’t as bad of a choice as Bullock or Lawrence).
Montenegro was robbed. And I think we’re still waiting for a Latina winner?
FYC 2023:
Zar Amir Ebrahimi - Shayda (Best Actress)
Helen Mirren - Golda (Best Actress)
Cillian Murphy, Emily Blunt - Oppenheimer (Best Actor/Actress)Montenegro was robbed. And I think we’re still waiting for a Latina winner?
Yeah, I see no change. Still mostly young white winners/transformative perfs. Still name recognizion. Still lack of foreign performances included. If you are not British or French, you basically has no shot at getting that 1 spot yearly.
FYC 2022 Emmys:
Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"
Still name recognizion.
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Love Legend Goop but she is hands down one of the worst Oscar winners ever. When I finally watched, Cate I understood why she lost and didn’t particularly match the hype, while Fernanda was beyond robbed though a foreign Latina who had no chance because of xenophobia. So Goop’s win is understandable but still fucking atrocious because she doesn’t even give close to a good performance.
Well, she had enormous name recognition among British people. They pretty much decided this race.
FYC 2022 Emmys:
Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"
Montenegro was robbed. And I think we’re still waiting for a Latina winner?
Absolutely, Montenegro should have won. Her Dora was a joy to watch!
FYC 2022 Emmys:
Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"
If the main argument against Chastain that Tammy Faye is not known among British voters (the absurdity of this discussion is what killing me), then she’s good to go.
I don’t think it’s the only argument, but since international voters got more spotlight after being suspect in pushing through several wins, they are getting more attention now than before. I think that factors such as potential boxoffice flop, fading away from September onwards due to more comeptition, festival buzz being in its own bubble that may not translate, are also present, but they are not unique only for her. For exmaple, ust look at reports that industry did not connect with Spencer unlike critics. That’s a strike against any festival buz and we have made enough jokes about everyone giving career best performance to know that festival reviews tend to be an overhype by a good notch or two.
Also, the more people know the real life character, the more they get critical about a portrayal. Critics said Chastain is transformative and that will be repeated by everyone else from now on.
Yep though transformative was Davis trademark too and yet McDormand won without transformation. These things can go either way, it’s really hard to know when AMPAS will embrace camp and when they won’t.
Also, what is this nonsense about the Academy being different than 10 years ago? It surely changed, but arguing that megastars Sandra Bullock and Jennifer Lawrence wouldn’t overcome complete newcomers and USA-wise unknown French ladies is pretty random. This category was made of ‘it girls’/transformative performances/Hollywood superstar winners since the beginning of time. Gabourey Sidibe, Carey Mulligan, Emmanuelle Riva would still lose to this very day. Heck, I was team Mulligan last year, but we witnessed how she cannot gain support ten years after her breakthrough even today. She struggled way through awards season because no actor organizations had her back. Even her own people betrayed her in the BAFTA jury. And then she’d be winning against Hollywood’s darling Sandra Bullock? In which planet?
All of this.
Sandra winning over Carey and Gabourey is also a complete fucking joke
What’s even worse is the fact that Gabourey hasn’t even been given an opportunity like she was with Precious again.
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I can see that everyone here will predict whoever wins BAFTA in all acting categories after what happened last year, but it’s not that simple. When Frances McDormand and Anthony Hopkins won BAFTA last year, it was more a consequence of things we overlooked about the race than the power of BAFTA itself.
I still think it’s possible to win with SAG only these days, specially now with the jury system at BAFTA and the Globes are no longer relevant, it’s just a matter of how the race looks like.
What’s even worse is the fact that Gabourey hasn’t even been given an opportunity like she was with Precious again.
She’s been brilliant in quite a few TV shows and movies in the last few years. I think she stayed alive in this business against all odds which is quite fascinating. Maybe she wasn’t given an opportunity to play in another Oscar bait, although that’s not entirely a Gabby Sidibe-phenomenon. If you are not Meryl Streep, it’s just not guaranteed. There are tons of one-hit wonders such as Anna Kendrick, Elliot Page etc.
FYC 2022 Emmys:
Best Actress in a Drama Series: Sandra Oh in "Killing Eve"
Best Actress in a Comedy Series: Sandra Oh in "The Chair"
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series: Kim Joo-ryoung in "Squid Game"
Not at all. Sandra was a superstar who had her “she can carry a drama?” moment with an insane boxoffice hit that wasn’t in her comfort zone (romcom, comedy). I cannot stress enough how big 256M domestic gross was in 2009, before 3D, for a movie without special effects and/or action. Stars lined up. And she is a winning personality so you bet campaigning was an easy part. Sidibe was a total newcomer and overshadowed by Mo’nique. She was great but everyone knew that Mo’nique was going to win for THAT performance. Nomination was Sidibe’s award as is the case when supporting actor gets more attention than the lead one. Mulligan was another newcomer in a small movie. You may like those performances more, but they were not going to beat a boxoffice and charisma juggernaut and there’s also nothing wrong with Bullock’s performance. You just hate the white savior character but that doesn’t mean that performance was crap which it wasn’t. Veyr few actresses could be that charismatic. Mulligan certianly not. She’s highly revered by moviebuffs and awards watchers but general public doesn’t know who she is cause she’s bland on and off the screen. Good actress but unmemorable presence.
I was just underwhelmed with the story I guess, but you have some valid points. I was Team Carey last year as well. At the end of the day charisma and star power will get you awards.
You may like those performances more, but they were not going to beat a boxoffice and charisma juggernaut
Obviously nobody was gonna beat Sandra, that’s not what I was saying when you quoted me.
You just hate the white savior character but that doesn’t mean that performance was crap which it wasn’t.
That cheesy ass southern accent says otherwise lollllllllllllll 💀💀💀💀💀 and it’s not just about the white savior character either, she just came off as campy and ridiculous.
Veyr few actresses could be that charismatic. Mulligan certianly not.
Being charismatic =/= giving an Oscar worthy performance. If that were true then The Rock would have five Oscars right now.
She’s highly revered by moviebuffs and awards watchers but general public doesn’t know who she is
PYW has changed that for her and now she’s becoming much more well-known. I get that there is a difference between 2009 and today, but come on.
she’s bland on and off the screen. Good actress but unmemorable presence.
This could not be further from the truth. I mean, just watch interviews with her and you can tell she’s just having the time of her life in every single one. And if she were unmemorable then PYW wouldn’t still be in top 100 trending on IMDb 5 months after the Oscars.
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