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    This is why I don’t like to come to GD forums about film awards pre-December because it’s always 3 months behind of what the actual race will be and people still doing hopedictions/unreasonable biased predictions due to trolling and/or useless comparisons.

    The whole Twilight debacle was over 10+ years ago. How are some of you still living in 2008-2010 with this dated idea of Kristen Stewart as the worst actress in Hollywood? It’s not cool to ridicule her for her Twilight performances that were well over a decade ago. Natalie Portman was also dragged for Star Wars before she even got her first Oscar nom for Closer. Being in a bad film is not what prevents you from getting an Oscar nomination.

    The examples of JLo, Aniston and Sandler don’t hold much weight here. JLo was in a divisive heist film that was deemed as just a “stripper movie” that bombed at the guilds and her having a non-baity role that wasn’t transformative and her not having any recent acclaimed work is what blocked her from that nomination. Not to mention, she had made several enemies in Hollywood.

    Sandler was in an unconventional, slow Safdies film in a, once again, non-baity role. Plus, that Actor race was too strong.

    Aniston was in a poorly received indie film that nobody watched nor took seriously.

    How does any of this compare to Spencer, a film going to Venice, TIFF, Telluride and possibly NYFF? Stewart has been garnering respect over the years and built up her resume and she’s in a transformative, BAITY role and she would be the new ingenue. If the film gets praise, she can be competitive for the win. She checks off many boxes and honestly, the Twilight narrative can actually HELP her. If she’s actually excellent, the narrative can shift to “Omg KStew is actually a great dramatic actress and she needs to be recognized now!”

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    This is why I don’t like to come to GD forums about film awards pre-December because it’s always 3 months behind of what the actual race will be and people still doing hopedictions/unreasonable biased predictions due to trolling and/or useless comparisons. The whole Twilight debacle was over 10+ years ago. How are some of you still living in 2008-2010 with this dated idea of Kristen Stewart as the worst actress in Hollywood? It’s not cool to ridicule her for her Twilight performances that were well over a decade ago. Natalie Portman was also dragged for Star Wars before she even got her first Oscar nom for Closer. Being in a bad film is not what prevents you from getting an Oscar nomination. The examples of JLo, Aniston and Sandler don’t hold much weight here. JLo was in a divisive heist film that was deemed as just a “stripper movie” that bombed at the guilds and her having a non-baity role that wasn’t transformative and her not having any recent acclaimed work is what blocked her from that nomination. Not to mention, she had made several enemies in Hollywood. Sandler was in an unconventional, slow Safdies film in a, once again, non-baity role. Plus, that Actor race was too strong. Aniston was in a poorly received indie film that nobody watched nor took seriously. How does any of this compare to Spencer, a film going to Venice, TIFF, Telluride and possibly NYFF? Stewart has been garnering respect over the years and built up her resume and she’s in a transformative, BAITY role and she would be the new ingenue. If the film gets praise, she can be competitive for the win. She checks off many boxes and honestly, the Twilight narrative can actually HELP her. If she’s actually excellent, the narrative can shift to “Omg KStew is actually a great dramatic actress and she needs to be recognized now!”

     

    Amen 🙏🏼
    She’s in my no.1 and Hopefully Halle performance in Bruised is good enough for a nomination.
     

     

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    Like you need to have industry mentions to receive industry mentions.

    Absolutely correct, but Stewart is not a beginner.

    There are few actors of her generation who have been given the opportunity (and, likely, who have the almost pure economic freedom) the way Stewart has. She’s been able to concentrate on a certain type of film for a decade when most actresses of her age simply have not had that option. The fact she’s failed to garner even a single major US nomination in the last decade is, quite simply, a lack of a track record. It’s not a reflection of her talent, it’s a reflection of how the industry is responding to her, and, in all likelihood, may continue to respond to her unless she has a circuit-breaker performance.

     

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    Sandra Bullock, an actress who was in a lot of shitty comedies and was panned in a lot of them, won Best Actress for The Blind Side over Carey Mulligan in An Education, Gabourey Sidibe in Precious, and Meryl Streep in Julie and Julia, three performances that were far more acclaimed than Bullock’s and performances that are still considered better to this very day. It was because she broke character and there was a certain novelty in her doing this kind of role. There are other reasons as well, reasons that Be Kind Rewind explains better than I ever could, but that was the big one. If something like that can happen for Bullock up against better performances including one from an industry giant, Stewart can also pull off a win if she is acclaimed enough and wins the Volpi.

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    Dune in All Categories (esp. Director, Score, Sound, and Visual Effects)
    Spencer in All Categories (esp. Actress, Cinematography, and Costume Design)
    The Worst Person in the World in All Categories (esp. Original Screenplay and International Feature)
    Flee in All Categories (esp. Animated Feature, Documentary Feature, and International Feature)
    The Power of the Dog in All Categories (esp. Actor and Adapted Screenplay)

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    Sandra Bullock, an actress who was in a lot of shitty comedies and was panned in a lot of them, won Best Actress for The Blind Side over Carey Mulligan in An Education, Gabourey Sidibe in Precious, and Meryl Streep in Julie and Julia, three performances that were far more acclaimed than Bullock’s and performances that are still considered better to this very day. It was because she broke character and there was a certain novelty in her doing this kind of role. There are other reasons as well, reasons that Be Kind Rewind explains better than I ever could, but that was the big one. If something like that can happen for Bullock up against better performances including one from an industry giant, Stewart can also pull off a win if she is acclaimed enough and wins the Volpi.

    quite agree but also I feel like volpi is either going to colman or pcruz and idk what that will mean for kstew

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    This is why I don’t like to come to GD forums about film awards pre-December because it’s always 3 months behind of what the actual race will be and people still doing hopedictions/unreasonable biased predictions due to trolling and/or useless comparisons. The whole Twilight debacle was over 10+ years ago. How are some of you still living in 2008-2010 with this dated idea of Kristen Stewart as the worst actress in Hollywood? It’s not cool to ridicule her for her Twilight performances that were well over a decade ago. Natalie Portman was also dragged for Star Wars before she even got her first Oscar nom for Closer. Being in a bad film is not what prevents you from getting an Oscar nomination. The examples of JLo, Aniston and Sandler don’t hold much weight here. JLo was in a divisive heist film that was deemed as just a “stripper movie” that bombed at the guilds and her having a non-baity role that wasn’t transformative and her not having any recent acclaimed work is what blocked her from that nomination. Not to mention, she had made several enemies in Hollywood. Sandler was in an unconventional, slow Safdies film in a, once again, non-baity role. Plus, that Actor race was too strong. Aniston was in a poorly received indie film that nobody watched nor took seriously. How does any of this compare to Spencer, a film going to Venice, TIFF, Telluride and possibly NYFF? Stewart has been garnering respect over the years and built up her resume and she’s in a transformative, BAITY role and she would be the new ingenue. If the film gets praise, she can be competitive for the win. She checks off many boxes and honestly, the Twilight narrative can actually HELP her. If she’s actually excellent, the narrative can shift to “Omg KStew is actually a great dramatic actress and she needs to be recognized now!”

    Spilling the tea per usual sis.

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    Natalie Portman got a best supporting actress nomination the same year Revenge of the Sith was released. She was 23/24 years old. Despite Star Wars hurting her career for a while the Oscars still nominated her. Kstew didn’t garner a nomination during Twilight time and she is 31 and has never been nominated. She can’t be compared to Portman.

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    Sandra Bullock, an actress who was in a lot of shitty comedies and was panned in a lot of them, won Best Actress for The Blind Side over Carey Mulligan in An Education, Gabourey Sidibe in Precious, and Meryl Streep in Julie and Julia, three performances that were far more acclaimed than Bullock’s and performances that are still considered better to this very day. It was because she broke character and there was a certain novelty in her doing this kind of role. There are other reasons as well, reasons that Be Kind Rewind explains better than I ever could, but that was the big one. If something like that can happen for Bullock up against better performances including one from an industry giant, Stewart can also pull off a win if she is acclaimed enough and wins the Volpi.

     

    How can you explain the hate on Halle ? She was up against Kidman,  Spacek , Zelweger and Dench. For a small indie film that didn’t hold up against the classic Moulin Rouge and even the Best movie of the century Muholland Drive. Halle hasn’t even work with any great directors in her entire career. Her winning was because of her performance not because her light filmography.  It will be the same for Stewart.

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    The whole Twilight debacle was over 10+ years ago. How are some of you still living in 2008-2010 with this dated idea of Kristen Stewart as the worst actress in Hollywood? It’s not cool to ridicule her for her Twilight performances that were well over a decade ago.

    The assumption that people, particularly here, have only watched Stewart in Twilight films is a false generalization & lazy argument. Especially when she’s been in Oscar contending films like Still Alice & Into the Wild. Plus popcorn flicks such as Snow White & The Huntsman & Charlie’s Angels. So let’s not undermine opposing or informed opinions just because you disagree.

    Also, it’s best not to discuss the semantics of the ridiculous Natalie Portman comparisons or those contradictory reasonings as to why other actors have been snubbed for their work….

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    Sandra Bullock, an actress who was in a lot of shitty comedies and was panned in a lot of them, won Best Actress for The Blind Side over Carey Mulligan in An Education, Gabourey Sidibe in Precious, and Meryl Streep in Julie and Julia, three performances that were far more acclaimed than Bullock’s and performances that are still considered better to this very day. It was because she broke character and there was a certain novelty in her doing this kind of role. There are other reasons as well, reasons that Be Kind Rewind explains better than I ever could, but that was the big one. If something like that can happen for Bullock up against better performances including one from an industry giant, Stewart can also pull off a win if she is acclaimed enough and wins the Volpi.

    Bullock had years of good will within Hollywood as a likeable actress & B.O. star. Stewart is not well respected nor is she a money maker. Let’s not forget Sandra won an Oscar in an era where many of her contemporaries (Roberts, Berry, Witherspoon, Kidman, Zellweger) were awarded for being popular names in the right vehicles.

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    Tilight films is a false generalhe assumption that people, particularly here, have only watched Stewart in Twization & lazy argument. Especially when she’s been in Oscar contending films like Still Alice & Into the Wild. Plus popcorn flicks such as Snow White & The Huntsman & Charlie’s Angels. So let’s not undermine opposing or informed opinions just because you disagree.

    Also, it’s best not to discuss the semantics of the ridiculous Natalie Portman comparisons or those contradictory reasonings as to why other actors have been snubbed for their work….

    Except that’s not what I said whatsoever. I SAID “How are some of you still living in 2008-2010 with the perception that Stewart is the worst actress and that Twilight, a franchise from 10 years ago, is what’s going to harm her chances here?” And if you’re not basing this on Twilight, what the fuck are you basing it on and why do most of you KEEP ON MENTIONING TWILIGHT as some sort of defense?

    “The semantics of the ridiculous Natalie Portman comparisons” “Contradictory reasonings” do you even know what you’re saying? Word salad that you’ve heard other people say that doesn’t even apply to what I said and you can’t even properly back it up?

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    How can you explain the hate on Halle ? She was up against Kidman, Spacek , Zelweger and Dench. For a small indie film that didn’t hold up against the classic Moulin Rouge and even the Best movie of the century Muholland Drive. Halle hasn’t even work with any great directors in her entire career. Her winning was because of her performance not because her light filmography. It will be the same for Stewart.

    I honestly can’t explain Halle’s lack of success with any reason other than racism and prejudice. Her Oscar came about because of extensive campaigning (largely thanks to Lee Daniels) and the lack of passion for the other nominees (Sissy Spacek had been the frontrunner up to a certain point but In the Bedroom had really dipped in terms of passion). And it’s not like Sandra Bullock’s career has been great since The Blind Side anyway. But yeah, Stewart could win if she’s really great

    FYC
    Dune in All Categories (esp. Director, Score, Sound, and Visual Effects)
    Spencer in All Categories (esp. Actress, Cinematography, and Costume Design)
    The Worst Person in the World in All Categories (esp. Original Screenplay and International Feature)
    Flee in All Categories (esp. Animated Feature, Documentary Feature, and International Feature)
    The Power of the Dog in All Categories (esp. Actor and Adapted Screenplay)

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    Except that’s not what I said whatsoever. I SAID “How are some of you still living in 2008-2010 with the perception that Stewart is the worst actress and that Twilight, a franchise from 10 years ago, is what’s going to harm her chances here?” And if you’re not basing this on Twilight, what the fuck are you basing it on and why do most of you KEEP ON MENTIONING TWILIGHT as some sort of defense?

    “The semantics of the ridiculous Natalie Portman comparisons” “Contradictory reasonings” do you even know what you’re saying? Word salad that you’ve heard other people say that doesn’t even apply to what I said and you can’t even properly back it up?

    Please pull up the receipts of users proclaiming Twilight as the Achilles heel of Stewart’s Oscar prospects. Because I haven’t personally seen that. If anything most of Kristen’s detractors are basing their opinions on two decades worth of films where her performances were less than spectacular.

    And IK exactly what I’m saying. Do you? The arguments you gave as to why Lopez, Sandler, Aniston, etc. were snubbed could potentially apply to KS in Spencer too. Plus, KAZ-2.5 already responded to your ludicrous Portman comparison. So there’s no need to even go back & forth on that B.S.

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    Bullock had years of good will within Hollywood as a likeable actress & B.O. star. Stewart is not well respected nor is she a money maker. Let’s not forget Sandra won an Oscar in an era where many of her contemporaries (Roberts, Berry, Witherspoon, Kidman, Zellweger) were awarded for being popular names in the right vehicles.

    Who’s to say Stewart can’t pull off a similar win despite being less respected? Emma Stone, Brie Larson, and JLaw also had those types of wins for being “popular names in the right vehicles”. Who’s to say Stewart can’t follow them?

    FYC
    Dune in All Categories (esp. Director, Score, Sound, and Visual Effects)
    Spencer in All Categories (esp. Actress, Cinematography, and Costume Design)
    The Worst Person in the World in All Categories (esp. Original Screenplay and International Feature)
    Flee in All Categories (esp. Animated Feature, Documentary Feature, and International Feature)
    The Power of the Dog in All Categories (esp. Actor and Adapted Screenplay)

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    Who’s to say Stewart can’t pull off a similar win despite being less respected? Emma Stone, Brie Larson, and JLaw also had those types of wins for being “popular names in the right vehicles”. Who’s to say Stewart can’t follow them?

    No shade but Kristen Stewart is not a B.O. draw or beloved personality like Stone or Lawrence (pre-mother!). Larson eventually found a vehicle with Captain Marvel but that certainly hasn’t happened for Stewart. Even Snow White & The Huntsman/Charlie’s Angels failed to become a franchise role for her.

    Stewart will need to impress BIG time in order to receive a nomination let alone win.

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