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    Qoslca
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    How are they gonna do the car chases in the next Bond movie if they’re out of fuel in the UK? (sorry, that situation is surreal)

    Teslas? 🙂

    My username is an acronym of “Quiet On Set! Lights, Camera, Action.” 🎥

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    No Time to Die is getting very positive reactions. If it’s on the same league as Skyfall (which would’ve been nominated in a line up of 10) I think it could be a dark horse for a BP nomination.

    With these reviews it’s definitely going to do well at BAFTA regardless of what happens at the Oscars.

    Casino Royale = 9 nominations including Best Actor, Adapted Screenplay and British Film

    Skyfall = 8 nominations including Best Supporting Actor, Best Supporting Actress and a win for British Film

    With the adapted screenplay field at the Oscars and BAFTAs looking so wide open and Phoebe Waller-Bridge having a screenplay credit I wonder if it could be a dark horse for a nom.

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    "The Good Fight", "The Other Two" and "Station Eleven" in all categories, Sarah Lancashire ("Julia"), William Jackson Harper ("Love Life") and Luke Kirby ("The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel")

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    Having seen it, it would be a shame if they overlooked Macbeth. It’s really a masterpiece, and I’m rooting for Denzel to win (but I could see him acquiescing to Will Smith in campaign willingness). But then again they embarrassingly snubbed Inside Llewyn Davis, so who knows.

    I will never forget or forgive this. I will literally die mad about it.

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    Alessandro Leri
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    Guys let’s play a little…
    At the moment the duel for best picture seems to be Belfast vs The Power of the Dog…In which categories do you think theese two movies could be nominated? And in which categories do you think they could win?
    I predict director, supporting actress, cinematography,screenplay and editing nominations for Belfast while I see more unlikely nominations for actor and design. So 5 total nominees for Belfast and I see it winning for screenplay, the only category for which it’s truly the frontrunner. For The Power of the Dog i predict nominations for director, actor, supporting actress, supporting actor, adapted screenplay, cinematography,editing, design (maybe). Score is a possibility but I think Greenwood is more likely going to be nominated for Spencer rather than this. So I would say a total of 8 nominations and here TPOTD is easily the front runner for director, adapted screenplay and supporting actress. So if TPOTD wins theese three categories while Belfast wins just one (screenplay) how could Belfast defeat the TPOTD for a best picture win? Could it never happen that a movie with 5 nomination with only a screenplay win defeats a movie with 8 nominations and three wins (director, adapted screenplay and supporting actress) ??

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    King Richard – I will try to explain my antipathy towards this movie: I played tennis in high school and college. The parents who push their children into tennis at too early an age as stage mothers and stage fathers are dangerous to their kids and ought not be celebrated. As someone who does not believe the ends justify the means (the argument that Serena became a great player) I dislike the subject matter of the movie.

    You know, I actually really respect this opinion. No really, I do. My assumption is that the film deals with this flaw of his in some way or form and that’s why Ellis got acclaim, because as his first wife, something happened…I assume…that she couldn’t countenance. I don’t actually know the story fyi, I know I could just Google it, but I’d rather watch the film.

    I agree with you in that if it was some puff piece film it would low key piss me off. And as much as I admire Serena and Venus, if it IS a puff piece, it’ll make sense if they weren’t able to stay truly objective about this and they sort of…helped make a film that glorifies his legacy as opposed to scrutinizes it. BUT I wanna see for myself. It can’t….glorify too much, and still get all those reviews, can it? That’s been my internal assumption this whole time.

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    It’s not like gay movies won Picture too often. Moonlight and…

    You know…just…UGH. The Power of the Dog is not a GAY movie. Not at all the way Brokeback Mountain or Moonlight are. It’s a character drama that happens to be a thriller with — from my perspective — 4 co-leads, 3 of whom are actively engaged in a psychological warfare.

    And FYI — there is no actual evidence that a certain character is gay. You have to examine that you made that assumption tbh, of all the things hiding in the subtext, this is actually NOT one of them, and it’s clearly a strong choice Campion made that book readers will recognize.

    Also…weird thing about the world and people in it: they change. Even if it were a gay movie, this is not 2010 or 2015. You can’t just say “gay movies don’t win” as if the world is static.

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    You know…just…UGH. The Power of the Dog is not a GAY movie. Not at all the way Brokeback Mountain or Moonlight are. It’s a character drama that happens to be a thriller with — from my perspective — 4 co-leads, 3 of whom are actively engaged in a psychological warfare. And FYI — there is no actual evidence that a certain character is gay. You have to examine that you made that assumption tbh, of all the things hiding in the subtext, this is actually NOT one of them, and it’s clearly a strong choice Campion made that book readers will recognize.

    the person playing said role has already defended the casting being that said person is straight. Thats enough evidence right there

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    FYI, fellow GD folx I saw Tragedy today and…… oof, it pains me to say that I really didn’t like it (it SHOULD’VE been catnip to me! German expressionist influences + Denzel + Frances + Joel????)

    It felt REALLY shlocky and self-indulgent to me, and I hate to be the one to say it but it’s the kind of sentiment people were afraid of saying out loud for Ma Rainey (as a film) last year. I’m familiar enough with the dialogue. Frances was good, Kathryn Hunter was lovely but yeah I dunno if I see that as big enough to be a PASSION PICK. Denzel was gooooood! Like, the only part of it that really hit for me was how Macbeth plays on his own persona and aging. Honestly my least favorite Coen film (and I love them all).

    But aside from Denzel, it really did fail to answer the question: do we need another Macbeth adaptation?

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    FYI, fellow GD folx I saw Tragedy today and…… oof, it pains me to say that I really didn’t like it (it SHOULD’VE been catnip to me! German expressionist influences + Denzel + Frances + Joel????) It felt REALLY shlocky and self-indulgent to me, and I hate to be the one to say it but it’s the kind of sentiment people were afraid of saying out loud for Ma Rainey (as a film) last year. I’m familiar enough with the dialogue. Frances was good, Kathryn Hunter was lovely but yeah I dunno if I see that as big enough to be a PASSION PICK. Denzel was gooooood! Like, the only part of it that really hit for me was how Macbeth plays on his own persona and aging. Honestly my least favorite Coen film (and I love them all). But aside from Denzel, it really did fail to answer the question: do we need another Macbeth adaptation?

    Being that this is shorter than most versions, could you tell what they cut out in this version?

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    the person playing said role has already defended the casting being that said person is straight. Thats enough evidence right there

    Mmm that’s going off an assumption from the novel’s author actually (a closeted gay man) but the answer there felt more about: does a straight person get to play this character with their presumed sexuality? The character has some stereotypical traits associated with sexuality, that’s the whole deal. To be vvvv specific: one particular line of dialogue was changed and the only effect it can possibly have is to make it ambiguous. And I’m not saying said character is straight, I’m saying there is no evidence either way. That doesn’t default to straight, not sure you’re aware that sexuality (and gender) can be ambiguous. It’s not just straight vs. gay. Campion made a choice — if you don’t believe me, read Thomas Savage’s work.

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    Being that this is shorter than most versions, could you tell what they cut out in this version?

    Oh I’d have to go to the play for that because I don’t remember all the scenes. Everything I recall from the narrative that is integral is there, there’s some perspective shifting to includes Frances more but that’s about it?

    Honestly it feels a bit like Macbeth: Here We Play With Light and Shadows. I knowww that sounds mean lol, but I’d maybe enjoy the play, as a film I was like….why? Except Denzel. That man is amazing. He makes you worry for his own mortality, and that shook me.

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    Being that this is shorter than most versions, could you tell what they cut out in this version?

    Also I never watched ths Fassbender adaptation (thankfully) so I can’t compare it there. I just saw that film’s trailer and was like NOPE.

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    thanks, I take it the age thing didnt have as much of an effect on the play as you hoped?

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    thanks, I take it the age thing didnt have as much of an effect on the play as you hoped?

    Yeah the whole thing didn’t work for me as a whole. It’s just not original enough. It feels like a film that needs to hang entirely off Denzel and what he’s doing and it doesn’t :/ Maybe it’s dashed expectations because if there’s anyone who would know what to do with Robert Bresson and expressionist influences, I’d have thought it would be Joel Coen, but it was mostly sort of boring. If you know Macbeth, you more or less know what you’re getting? Maybe for many, that’s a good thing I dunno

    Justice for Passing, Tessa Thompson & Ruth Negga.

    The Power of the Dog / Jane Campion / Benedict Cumberbatch / Kristen Stewart / Kirsten Dunst / Troy Kotsur

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    Apart from screenplay I don’t see any other category in which Belfast could win an Oscar. It could be nominated for director, supporting actress, cinematography, Screenplay and editing but it can olny win screenplay. It will be impossible for this movie to win picture if The Power of the Dog wins director, adapted screenplay and supporting actress. In that case, with those three wins, The Power of the Dog is easily winning picture. If TPOFD lose one of those three categories it will be adapted screenplay because The Tragedy of Macbeth is a real threat there. What do you think guys? How could Belfast wins picture? In which categories could it be rewarded other than screenplay?

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