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September 13, 2021 at 12:49 pm #1204457724
Belfast is an abomination of cinema that nobody but overgrown adults who obsess over coming of age movies about little kids care about.
When did you watch it?
September 13, 2021 at 1:07 pm #1204457769he literally calls it Irish Roma. thats enough of an abomination to cinema.
Then you haven’t watch it yet. Got it.
September 13, 2021 at 2:30 pm #1204457879Warner Bros is literally saying that, for Dune they don’t care about box office. They only care about HBO Max. If it’s a hit in HBO Max, then there will be a sequel.
This movie is not happening in BP and BD.
September 13, 2021 at 3:27 pm #1204457967Warner Bros is literally saying that, for Dune they don’t care about box office. They only care about HBO Max. If it’s a hit in HBO Max, then there will be a sequel. This movie is not happening in BP and BD.
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Trying to calculate the correlation.September 13, 2021 at 3:29 pm #1204457971I don’t get why some people want to hate on a film just because it’ll be an awards contender. Like there’s nothing about Belfast that seems offensive or problematic, it looks like a well acted feel good film film made by someone with good intentions who might not be as creative as he thinks he is. I’m still not sure if I’ll tear up at it or roll my eyes at it. Is it gonna be better than The Power of the Dog or PTA’s new film, or a lot of films coming out soon? No. But I’m seeing a lot of people who’ve seen it say that it’s already become very special to them, and I think we should just try to be happy about that as film fans and not root against a film that other people love just because it may take awards from something we preferred.
September 13, 2021 at 3:31 pm #1204457979I think 5 TIFF films will make it into picture this year but The Power of the Dog and Belfast are the only 2 showing there that I’m confident will make it in the end lol.
FYC: Better Call Saul, The English and The Good Fight in all categories including Emily Blunt, Bob Odenkirk, Christine Baranski and Rhea Seehorn.
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Trying to calculate the correlation.It’s already a day on date release and the studio behind is saying to people to watch it at HBO Max instead of “supporting the theaters”, and industry won’t like that. DGA already is blocking day on date releases.
Do you want me to draw it for you ?
September 13, 2021 at 3:47 pm #1204458019I cant believe that this category went from being stacked as hell to complete mess very quick. Critical Underperformance during Festival run plays a Big Part I suppose
Definetly In:
Belfast, TPOTD
Looking Very Strong:
Spencer, Dune, The Lost Daughter
Underperforms, but still has a slight chance:
LNIS, The French Dispatch, The Humans
Late Breaker that I believe has a strong chance:
Macbeth, Nightmare Alley, Licrorice Pizza (?), Dont Look Up
Late Breaker that are doubtful to me:
West Side Story, House of Gucci
FYC:
Best Director: Edgar Wright, Guillermo Del Toro, Jane Campion
Best Picture: Nightmare Alley, The Power of the Dog
Best Actress: Kristen Stewart, Thomasin McKenzie, Rooney Mara, Tessa Thompson
Best Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch, Bradley Cooper
Best S. Actress: Cate Blanchett, Diana Rigg, Anya Taylor Joy
Best S. Actor: Kodi Smit McPhee, Willem Dafoe, Richard JenkinsSeptember 13, 2021 at 3:54 pm #1204458025I don’t get why some people want to hate on a film just because it’ll be an awards contender. Like there’s nothing about Belfast that seems offensive or problematic, it looks like a well acted feel good film film made by someone with good intentions who might not be as creative as he thinks he is. I’m still not sure if I’ll tear up at it or roll my eyes at it. Is it gonna be better than The Power of the Dog or PTA’s new film, or a lot of films coming out soon? No. But I’m seeing a lot of people who’ve seen it say that it’s already become very special to them, and I think we should just try to be happy about that as film fans and not root against a film that other people love just because it may take awards from something we preferred.
I don’t think this is bias against “crowd-pleasing” films because I’ve loved plenty of crowd-pleasing films that either did or did not win BP.
For me it’s very simply that Belfast seems to fit a very clean mold: schmaltzy, cloying, apolitical despite being set in a highly politicized setting & somehow still projects this sense of serious self-importance — I don’t like such films for political reasons (see below). There are some cloying films that I still kinda love (Stepmom lol, IT’S GREAT!) But more importantly: that mold is the sort of mold I wish the Oscars were better than — and I think as of the last 2 years if not more (especially since Spotlight and Moonlight), I’ve been optimistic that AMPAS is getting better than it used to be. I don’t think it’s wrong to want better: there’s nothing wrong in my opinion with disliking that a film like Green Book has won (neatly encapsulated by Spike Lee) because it perpetuates harmful stereotypes and actively depoliticizes history.
In other words: it’s also OKAY to dislike a film on principle. I find it BIZARRE that a film with The Troubles in the background is so apolitical. Why? Because…Branagh is a British toadie who is clearly not radical enough to make a film that deals with things.
Then the other thing: the comparison with Roma that I’m sure Branagh also hates. But it’s an unavoidable comparison because it tells me what the director SEES in their own life as worthy of telling. I think Alfonso Cuaron is fucking BRILLIANT for making a film with his former maid as the protagonist. I felt so much for her and his focus on class felt SO GOOD and SO RIGHT. And that’s what I hope for the Oscar to reward?
This is not just a simple stan/hater thing. One can actually have principled, political reasons for disliking a seemingly inoffensive film because seemingly inoffensive films can often be…………offensive! There’s a shit ton of seemingly inoffensive films that perpetuate the white savior stereotype (just one example), The Help seems very inoffensive, still, and I do love the actors but two of them (Viola Davis and Bryce Dallas Howard) have said they wouldn’t make it today. There are reasons!
FYC:
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Banshees of Inisherin
Women Talking
All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
Joyland
RRR
AftersunSeptember 13, 2021 at 4:05 pm #1204458036I’m sure what I’ve said sounds sanctimonious as hell but I don’t need a film to scream POLITICS at me either (I despise Argo and Zero Dark Thirty because they scream all the wrong politics!) I don’t think Roma screamed politics at all, among many other films that I love.
But also — if this is my rationale, I know everybody else has their own! Some hate camp, some hate “social justice films”, some hate this or that. Everyone has their own principles :/ that’s just…true. Whether we love it or hate it, it’s just a fact that everybody brings themselves into a movie or any work of art. For me, King Richard sounds perfectly appropriately crowd-pleasing, Belfast hits all my buttons. I will advocate for Passing if Rebecca Hall does the book justice because I believe it is IMMENSELY important. What do I do? Throw away principles? Naw.
(Also I kinda love Jamie Dornan and it gives me no pleasure that he’s in this film lol, and ALSO — I’m predicting it anyway! It’s getting in! It’s a frontrunner! Wish it weren’t so but it is.)
FYC:
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Banshees of Inisherin
Women Talking
All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
Joyland
RRR
AftersunSeptember 13, 2021 at 4:13 pm #1204458041For me, I would like to see a film with an artistic vision win Best Picture at the bare minimum. But ideally, I’d also like to see Best Picture winners be films that try new things and take risks and have a unique voice to add to film. I’d like this for nominees as well. This is why I’m against House of Gucci getting nominated. It just looks like a soulless corporate product (on top of looking like complete shit imo). Same goes for Don’t Look Up. Just give us more winners like Parasite and Moonlight
FYC
Everything Everywhere All at Once for everything, everywhere, all at onceSeptember 13, 2021 at 4:39 pm #1204458060https://mobile.twitter.com/ErikDavis/status/1437473192101220354
Imagine not watching a single movie and already calling them uninspiring in favor of freaking Shang Chi. These manchilds travested as journalists is why MCU movies always get a free pass in being mediocre.
It’s like last year. “I didn’t watch any of these Oscar nominated movies, but I know they’re boring and this was a weak year”.
September 13, 2021 at 4:49 pm #1204458075For me, I would like to see a film with an artistic vision win Best Picture at the bare minimum. But ideally, I’d also like to see Best Picture winners be films that try new things and take risks and have a unique voice to add to film. I’d like this for nominees as well. This is why I’m against House of Gucci getting nominated. It just looks like a soulless corporate product (on top of looking like complete shit imo). Same goes for Don’t Look Up. Just give us more winners like Parasite and Moonlight
I’m tentatively optimistic about DLU, but in general I completely agree. YEAH there’s a reason why these winners are SO GOOD—they bust open our artistic and emotional and intellectual expectations of what an “Oscar BP winner” should look like!
FYC:
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Banshees of Inisherin
Women Talking
All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
Joyland
RRR
AftersunSeptember 13, 2021 at 4:51 pm #1204458079Oh shit I didn’t realize Belfast was FINALLY on MC: 75 with 7 reviews
FYI: It should be mentioned that while King Richard has a 76 MC, the lowest score it got was a 70 :/
The lowest for Belfast is 50 (lol, David Ehrlich), but it has a 67 and 65 too.
FYC:
Everything Everywhere All At Once
The Banshees of Inisherin
Women Talking
All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
Joyland
RRR
AftersunSeptember 13, 2021 at 5:14 pm #1204458097did you watch cats to know it was bad? dont be stupid.
Yes, because I need my own opinion. I like movies and I guess you like them too. That’s why you’re here.
But I suppose you need others to tell you what’s good or bad, lol.
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