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    Well, take me seriously honey, because I’m serious and it’s all very-very subjective.

    Patricia Arquette is “Boyhood” is avarage. At best. I could name at least 50 better female supporting turns – starting with Tilda Swinton, Keira Knightley, Rima Te Wiata, Jessica Chastain, Erica Rivas, Jennifer Connelly, Rene Russo and so on – better than hers from last year. Winning an Oscar is nice and everything, and it’s clearly means that you are popular at this point, but just for the record, it doesn’t mean that “you are the ultimate best”. We all feel differently, I personally wouldn’t even nominate her for Boringhood.

    Exactly, it’s all very subjective. But what certainly is very objective is that Arquette did win the Oscar and dozens of other awards, while most of the actresses you mentioned were not even nominated. And yes, sometimes (very seldom, unfortunately) winning an Oscar does mean “you are the ultimate best”. Cate Blanchett was the ultimate best the year she won for Blue Jasmine. She’s an acting God. But then most times that’s not the case, like for example last year when the overrated Julianne Moore won for a forgettable performance because people felt she was “overdue”.

     

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    Well, take me seriously honey, because I’m serious and it’s all very-very subjective.

    Patricia Arquette is “Boyhood” is avarage. At best. I could name at least 50 better female supporting turns – starting with Tilda Swinton, Keira Knightley, Rima Te Wiata, Jessica Chastain, Erica Rivas, Jennifer Connelly, Rene Russo and so on – better than hers from last year. Winning an Oscar is nice and everything, and it’s clearly means that you are popular at this point, but just for the record, it doesn’t mean that “you are the ultimate best”. We all feel differently, I personally wouldn’t even nominate her for Boringhood.

    Exactly, it’s all very subjective. But what certainly is very objective is that Arquette did win the Oscar and dozens of other awards, while most of the actresses you mentioned were not even nominated. And yes, sometimes (very seldom, unfortunately) winning an Oscar does mean “you are the ultimate best”. Cate Blanchett was the ultimate best the year she won for Blue Jasmine. She’s an acting God. But then most times that’s not the case, like for example last year when the overrated Julianne Moore won for a forgettable performance because people felt she was “overdue”.

     

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    Well, I’ll have to go back and check out ALL of the Supporting winners. That’s a pretty huge task. Fortunately, I’ve seen the players so that helps.

    Going back to 2000:

    the guys:

    Chris Cooper, Adaptation. He gives one of my top two favorite performances of all time, and is the heart and soul of the movie.

    Jim Broadbent, Iris. He’s always amazing. A Lead win would have been fine with me.

    Chris Plummer, Beginners. Why not? And it was about time.

    The gals:

    Rachel Weisz, The Constant Gardener. I’m heavily biased here re her perf.

    Patty Arquette, Boyhood

    That’s it for Best Supporting Actress.

    1990-1999

    The guys:

    Tommy Lee Jones, The Fugitive. They may have been intent on rewarding Tom Hanks but bump him up and Ralph Fiennes could have had that Oscar that he so richly deserves, although the lineup that year is stellar imo.

    Martin Landau, Ed Wood. He may on the surface be purely “supporting”, but lesser perfs have been bumped to Lead, and his stature could have justified it. How amazing he is in this.

    Kevin Spacey, The Usual Suspects. C’mon! He IS the film.

    Robin Williams, Good Will Hunting. He’s the very best aspect in the film, and turns a cliched character into someone memorable. Give him Lead status. Jack could have used the competition.

    The gals:

    Whoopie Goldberg, Ghost. No other comment except to say that Meryl can go; although probably noone beats Kathy Bates. Great lineup, but Whoopie could have given her cause for concern.

    Marisa Tomei, My Cousin Vinny. Mona Lisa Vito can take Emma’s spot.

    1980-1989

    The guys:

    Noone. Not because some werent terrific, but because they would have been up against pre-anointed winners.

    The gals:

    Jessica Lange, Tootsie, has NO chance vs the absolutely incredible Streep here, but Supporting slot? O-kaaay.

    Anjelica Huston, Prizzi’s Honor. She just may have given the great Geraldine Page a go.

    I dont believe anyone else stood a chance against some of those Lead winners.

     

    That’s it for now. Later.

     

     

     

     

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    TomHardys
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    Bottom line: Rosamund Pike should be Academy Award Winner Rosamund Pike by now. Ugh the downsides of not awarding people when they should and then waiting until they become ‘overdue’

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    Actually, I think Marion Cotillard should be TWO-TIME Academy Award Winner Marion Cotillard by now. Rosamund is a strong runner-up, though.

    Well, it’ll happen sooner rather than later. Twice for what may I ask?

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    I mean, is there any doubt?
    Mo’Nique’s performance was one of the best of this decade- supporting or lead. And she would have won over Bullock(sigh) in a catewalk. That character she created still gives me chills.

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    JOHN
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    Monique would have won best actress for Precious in 2009. Her performance is the best supporting actress win in Oscar history.

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    Right now I can’t remember…

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