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    I can see Kevin Feige saving Emilia Clarke. She seems like a franchise actress. I do love her though.

    I prefer her as Mera instead of Amber Heard in Aquaman 2

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    I can see Kevin Feige saving Emilia Clarke. She seems like a franchise actress. I do love her though.

    Apparently Emilia Clarke auditioned for two Marvel roles including the recent Black Widow movie. She lost out to Florence Pugh. I don’t think Kevin Feige is interested. Maybe the DC franchise will cast her in something.

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    Sophie Turner was in X Men, Maisie in a failed film that people thought was gonna be big. Emilie in Star Wars. Like they’ve all done big projects. It’s not like Peter is out there getting Oscar nods or anything.

    OK, weird, I assumed the question was more about career longevity, which is a difficult thing to predict. Even from The West Wing, people like Allison Janney, Martin Sheen, Rob Lowe, Bradley Whitford have had a long path towards success. The best indicator is not so much the one-hit wonders but how much potential they actually have.

    Kit is not a good actor imo, but right now he seems to be fine. Richard Madden and Maisie Williams are excellent. So is Alfie Allen. It’s hard to read the tea-leaves this far in advance but I can see why it feels like somebody like Peter Dinklage may well be up for an Oscar nod while the younger actors have a long road ahead. And why not? For most people, even those who were great in the show and not-so-great outside it, like Sophie Turner, it’s seeing what sorts of decisions they make after.

    And let’s be honest: being in a failed film like The New Mutants is hardly a big indictment. Otherwise, it would have counted as a huge ding against Anya Taylor-Joy. Or for example Hailee Steinfeld in Bumblebee. It’s not really an indicator of future success.

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    OK, weird, I assumed the question was more about career longevity, which is a difficult thing to predict. Even from The West Wing, people like Allison Janney, Martin Sheen, Rob Lowe, Bradley Whitford have had a long path towards success. The best indicator is not so much the one-hit wonders but how much potential they actually have. Kit is not a good actor imo, but right now he seems to be fine. Richard Madden and Maisie Williams are excellent. So is Alfie Allen. It’s hard to read the tea-leaves this far in advance but I can see why it feels like somebody like Peter Dinklage may well be up for an Oscar nod while the younger actors have a long road ahead. And why not? For most people, even those who were great in the show and not-so-great outside it, like Sophie Turner, it’s seeing what sorts of decisions they make after. And let’s be honest: being in a failed film like The New Mutants is hardly a big indictment. Otherwise, it would have counted as a huge ding against Anya Taylor-Joy. Or for example Hailee Steinfeld in Bumblebee. It’s not really an indicator of future success.

    I was talking in general. Dinklage is playing the lead in Cyrano. Looks good. And Dinklage was doing a film with Mel Gibson and Michael Fassbender. He seems to get All the offers from the GoT cast. I love Peter Dinklage and Nicolaj Coster Waldau in Game of Thrones. Where is Nicolaj?.

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    OK, weird, I assumed the question was more about career longevity, which is a difficult thing to predict. Even from The West Wing, people like Allison Janney, Martin Sheen, Rob Lowe, Bradley Whitford have had a long path towards success. The best indicator is not so much the one-hit wonders but how much potential they actually have.

    Kit is not a good actor imo, but right now he seems to be fine. Richard Madden and Maisie Williams are excellent. So is Alfie Allen. It’s hard to read the tea-leaves this far in advance but I can see why it feels like somebody like Peter Dinklage may well be up for an Oscar nod while the younger actors have a long road ahead. And why not? For most people, even those who were great in the show and not-so-great outside it, like Sophie Turner, it’s seeing what sorts of decisions they make after.

    And let’s be honest: being in a failed film like The New Mutants is hardly a big indictment. Otherwise, it would have counted as a huge ding against Anya Taylor-Joy. Or for example Hailee Steinfeld in Bumblebee. It’s not really an indicator of future success.

    I’m talking in general right now. They are working.

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    I can see Kevin Feige saving Emilia Clarke. She seems like a franchise actress. I do love her though.

    She’s apparently signed on for Aquaman 2

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    She’s apparently signed on for Aquaman 2

    Honestly, it’s things like this that are baffling to me. No actors with GoT-type money need more franchises! Nicole Kidman and Cate Blanchett had the luxury of doing Aquaman and Thor: Ragnarok because they’re huge, and there’s nothing really that those franchise films get them except for extra money.

    For an actor like Emilia Clarke (no, I don’t think she’s very good—but I think she has potential the way everyone has potential if they try hard enough) one would assume that she knows she needs to prove her mettle in smaller, more actor-driven films to be taken seriously.

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    I was talking in general. Dinklage is playing the lead in Cyrano. Looks good. And Dinklage was doing a film with Mel Gibson and Michael Fassbender. He seems to get All the offers from the GoT cast. I love Peter Dinklage and Nicolaj Coster Waldau in Game of Thrones. Where is Nicolaj?.

    Ok, I get your point but I think the question really is more of a comparison between Dinklage and the show’s other adult actors. The young actors for whom GoT was their first job are a whole other deal, they have a very different industry in front of them. So, yes, I agree, I find it a little weird that Nicolaj Coster Waldau and Lena Headey aren’t getting offered better parts, but it’s fairly common I think. It’s only nowadays with Regina King and Allison Janney that we tend to assume actors can leap from TV success to the Oscars. But the vast majority even of hit TV shows don’t make many Oscar stars.

    Hell, the British teen TV show Skins has a better record than most prestige shows, what with Dev Patel, Daniel Kaluuya, Jack O’Connell, Nicholas Hoult, Kaya Scodelario, among others (like Hannah Murray and Joe Dempsie who were also in GoT).

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    Apparently Emilia Clarke auditioned for two Marvel roles including the recent Black Widow movie. She lost out to Florence Pugh. I don’t think Kevin Feige is interested. Maybe the DC franchise will cast her in something.

    He could be saving her for another character. I think she would have been a great choice as Yelena in Black Widow.

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    The problem with the younger generation of GoT actors is that they can’t act. They were bad on the show, and in other projects they don’t have the effects and the scale to cover for them. Literally all of the “main” cast (i.e. Kit, Emilia, Sophie) have been absolutely awful in all their other projects, and have not seen any particular financial success with those. So they aren’t getting more prominent work.

    Of course they’re all also rich as hell now, so it could be that they’re not looking for work either.

    But they’re not bankable stars on their own-

    Emilia’s romcoms made a decent amount of money but Solo and the flop Terminator were bombs, so it’s not like she’s getting butts in the seats from her name. I think she’ll see a similar trajectory as Blake Lively after Gossip Girl.

    Sophie’s Dark Phoenix was such a failure, and her performance so panned that I can actually see her not getting any respectable roles, especially if the rumors of her only getting cast in X-Men because she had the most instagram followers of the actresses in contention are true.

    I know Kit did some flop period movies, but literally nobody cared about them, so he’s in the worse version of Emilia’s situation.

    Richard Madden got out early and is probably going to have a solid career. Hope Alfie Allen does the same. I don’t know about Maisie, because her only project post-GoT that I’ve heard of is New Mutants, which was also a raging flop. Lena Headey does mostly voice work I believe, she’s committed to her family I’ve heard. Peter Dinklage is doing good work. Dunno about Nikolaj Causter-Waldau. Gwen Christie can’t really act in my opinion, but she has some relatively high profile thing coming up that I can’t remember right now. Gemma Whelan (“Yara” Greyjoy) is actually in a LOT of supporting roles on British TV, so I’d say she’s getting consistently decent roles. Dean Charles Chapman was also of course in 1917, and he can also have a solid career I believe.

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    Emilia seems like the sweetest person. I want her to win. Just like Gabourey Sidebe, i’ve written the perfect role for her.

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      It’s only nowadays with Regina King and Allison Janney that we tend to assume actors can leap from TV success to the Oscars.  

    To add to your point, both of these actress did a lot of film too alongside TV. They accumulated so much respect. Regina King wasn’t really an usual TV actors who worked in a really long series and she had already gotten acclaims for her film performance before she actively worked in miniseries. Allison Janney had worked with half of the industry and were an industry debutante because she had a strong relationship with Hollywood power couple, Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman.

    It’s much harder for GoT cast because none of them are really an industry darling. I only can see Richard Madden and Maisie Williams do well in future projects, but let’s see!

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    To add to your point, both of these actress did a lot of film too alongside TV. They accumulated so much respect. Regina King wasn’t really an usual TV actors who worked in a really long series and she had already gotten acclaims for her film performance before she actively worked in miniseries.

    Yeah, 100%. King, Janney, Metcalf and so many others gained a lot of steady respect over a lot of years for it to culminate into Oscar-winning roles. I’m not sure King or Metcalf were getting Oscar-worthy roles by the bucket-load (Ray, though!) but Janney definitely was. Colman too!

    My point is mostly that people expect that nowadays TV actors from hit TV shows will be able to transition seamlessly into prestige film, when 9 times out of 10 they still don’t (or can’t).

    BUT I think Richard Madden & Maisie Williams have the most potential. Maisie is still developing her wings, I feel, but she’s always good—even in The New Mutants. She has another bad film alongside Florence Pugh called The Falling and you can tell that both Pugh and Williams have more talent than the bad script allows them. It’s not like Maisie Williams has ever been panned like Sophie Turner, Kit Harington or Emilia Clarke have.

    The young actors are definitely on a spectrum. Harington and Clarke are the weakest, Madden and Williams the strongest, Turner somewhere in the middle. I feel like the less prominent young actors of GoT like Natalie Dormer, Nathalie Emmanuel, Hannah Murray, Joe Dempsie, Jacob Anderson are way stronger and more interesting than Harington or Clarke.

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    Dropping by to say Bumblebee was a movie liked by the audience and made a profit.

    I didn’t even know that, that’s how much of a non-factor it feels like for Steinfeld’s general career trajectory.

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    I suppose it always happens. Jon Hamm was perfect in MAD MEN but nothing in films. Same with Bryan Cranston. Films are more difficult than TV

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