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  • Phoenix LOVE.
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    the combination of the three of them,
    you can give a great performance, but you dont have any popularity or some kind of weinstein politics behind it, then say goodbye even to the nominations 

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    vinny
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    I feel like its a combo of all three as well.

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    GoMe91
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    Can I just say “Politics, Personality, Performance” is a great way of putting it. Can we make this a thing? Like call it “three P’s.” Like if we want to talk about a contender, we can say “oh, she’ll win because she has the three P’s.”

    Anyway, I think all 3 are important…but I think Performance is probably the most important…and Personality is probably the least.

     

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    RobertoTerra
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    Let’s see the past Best Actresses of example:

    Jennifer Lawrence – Personality > Politics > Performance
    Meryl Streep – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Natalie Portman – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Sandra Bullock –  Politics > Personality > Performance
    Kate Winslet –  Politics > Performance > Personality
    Marion Cotillard – Performance > Personality > Politics
    Helen Mirren – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Reese Witherspoon – Personality > Politics > Performance
    Hilary Swank –  Politics > Performance > Personality 
    Charlize Theron – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Nicole Kidman – Personality > Performance > Politics
    Halle Berry – Politics > Performance > Personality
    Julia Roberts – Personality > Politics > Performance  

    So out of the last 13 winners, 5 won based on Performance, 4 based on Personality and 4 based on Politics

    This is only my opinion, you’re all free to disagree. 

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    Beau S.
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    Helen Mirren’s win was 100% politics.

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    Helen Mirren’s win was 100% politics.

    Aaaaaah, come on, Beau. You may not be a fan of Mirren’s work in The Queen, but you have to admit that you’re in the minority on that. A lot of people really love that performance. I mean, hell, she got a 5-minute standing ovation at Venice and won the Volpi Cup for Best Actress. She won about as many awards for The Queen as Daniel Day-Lewis did for Lincoln, and there’s no way that one can accomplish a feat like that through politics alone.

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    Beau S.
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    They can if they’re Helen Mirren.

    She’s normally a phenomenal actress – I thought she was the best thing about Gosford Park which she should have deservedly won for. I support her recognition for The Madness of King George and even Hitchcock (not for The Last Station – a good performance but I found Swinton and Blunt more deserving). In The Queen she conveyed zero emotion and brought nothing interesting to the table.
    I feel the same way re Frears – normally a terrific director (deserving of the win for Dangerous Liaisons) – but here produced a one-note, cynical film unworthy of his talent.

    Mirren won because she played a hugely respected and widely well-liked figure during a time of crisis and mourning that a large amount of the world was deeply saddened by and remembered very well. The fact that she beat one of the strongest Best Actress lineups ever – Dench in a flashy, career-best performance; an overdue Winslet on her 5th nomination; Streep on her record-breaking nomination and Cruz with the babe-factor and a flashy performance from a well-liked director – speaks for itself.

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    Very interesting topic, but I feel the importance of the “three P’s” probably differs from category to category.

    That is, personality is probably more important in Lead Actress than Lead Actor, etc.

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    Let’s see the past Best Actresses of example:

    Jennifer Lawrence – Personality > Politics > Performance
    Meryl Streep – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Natalie Portman – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Sandra Bullock –  Politics > Personality > Performance
    Kate Winslet –  Politics > Performance > Personality
    Marion Cotillard – Performance > Personality > Politics
    Helen Mirren – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Reese Witherspoon – Personality > Politics > Performance
    Hilary Swank –  Politics > Performance > Personality 
    Charlize Theron – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Nicole Kidman – Personality > Performance > Politics
    Halle Berry – Politics > Performance > Personality
    Julia Roberts – Personality > Politics > Performance  

    So out of the last 13 winners, 5 won based on Performance, 4 based on Personality and 4 based on Politics

    This is only my opinion, you’re all free to disagree. 

    I love this. And I pretty much agree.  

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    Hope to see the discussion continue.  Maybe we should rank ALL the acting wins this way, as RobertoTerra initiated (ex.: Performance > Personality > Politics).  Maybe even some of the other wins (Director, Writer, etc.)

    I agree. And here’s my take on the last 13 Best Supporting Actresses. 

    Anne Hathaway – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Octavia Spencer – Politics > Personality > Performance 
    Melissa Leo – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Mo’Nique –  Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Penélope Cruz –  Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Tilda Swinton – Performance > Personality > Politics
    Jennifer Hudson – Personality > Performance > Politics
    Rachel Weisz – Performance > Personality > Politics
    Cate Blanchett –  Performance > Politics > Personality
    Renée Zellweger –  Politics > Personality > Performance   
    Catherine Zeta-Jones – Performance > Personality > Politics
    Jennifer Connelly – Politics > Performance > Personality
    Marcia Gay Harden – Performance > Personality > Politics

    Performance:  9 out of 13
    Personality:  1 out of 13
    Politics: 3 out of 13

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    Hilary Swank –  Politics > Performance > Personality 

    How were Oscar politics a factor for HIlary Swank? I didn’t follow the Oscar race that year, so I’m curious.

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    Let’s see the past Best Actresses of example:

    Jennifer Lawrence – Personality > Politics > Performance
    Meryl Streep – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Natalie Portman – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Sandra Bullock –  Politics > Personality > Performance
    Kate Winslet –  Politics > Performance > Personality
    Marion Cotillard – Performance > Personality > Politics
    Helen Mirren – Performance > Politics > Personality
    Reese Witherspoon – Personality > Politics > Performance
    Hilary Swank –  Politics > Performance > Personality 
    Charlize Theron – Performance > Personality > Politics 
    Nicole Kidman – Personality > Performance > Politics
    Halle Berry – Politics > Performance > Personality
    Julia Roberts – Personality > Politics > Performance  

    So out of the last 13 winners, 5 won based on Performance, 4 based on Personality and 4 based on Politics

    This is only my opinion, you’re all free to disagree. 

    Very nice synopsis. It’s just a bit gloomy that Politics is so prominent. I call it the “consolation” award/factor.

    I would’ve loved to have thought that Performance drives the Oscars.

    But oh well.   

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    I’ll rank by percentage:

    Jennifer Lawrence – 60% personality, 30% performance, 10% politics
    Meryl Streep – 33.3% performance, 33.3% personality, 33.3% politics (probably the only even split on this list)
    Natalie Portman – 80% performance, 15% politics, 5% personality
    Sandra Bullock –  90% personality, 5% performance, 5% politics
    Kate Winslet –  50% politics, 48% performance, 2% personality
    Marion Cotillard – 98% performance, 2% personality, 0% politics
    Helen Mirren – 100% politics, 0% performance, 0% personality
    Reese Witherspoon – 90% personality, 6% politics, 4% performance
    Hilary Swank (M$B) – 70% politics, 25% performance, 5% personality
    Charlize Theron – 100% performance, 0% personality, 0% politics 
    Nicole Kidman – 38% personality, 34% performance, 28% politics
    Halle Berry – 90% politics, 10% personality, 0% performance
    Julia Roberts – 90% personality, 10% performance, 0% politics

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    I’ll rank by percentage:

    Jennifer Lawrence – 60% personality, 30% performance, 10% politics
    Meryl Streep – 33.3% performance, 33.3% personality, 33.3% politics (probably the only even split on this list)
    Natalie Portman – 80% performance, 15% politics, 5% personality
    Sandra Bullock –  90% personality, 5% performance, 5% politics
    Kate Winslet –  50% politics, 48% performance, 2% personality
    Marion Cotillard – 98% performance, 2% personality, 0% politics
    Helen Mirren – 100% politics, 0% performance, 0% personality
    Reese Witherspoon – 90% personality, 6% politics, 4% performance
    Hilary Swank (M$B) – 70% politics, 25% performance, 5% personality
    Charlize Theron – 100% performance, 0% personality, 0% politics 
    Nicole Kidman – 38% personality, 34% performance, 28% politics
    Halle Berry – 90% politics, 10% personality, 0% performance
    Julia Roberts – 90% personality, 10% performance, 0% politics

    LMFAO! So you really don’t think that her performance was at all a factor?  

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