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    Avatar is a shit movie, but at that time it was groundbreaking in terms of sound and visuals and it brought back 3D from the dead. It has a big influence on big-budget cinema. Fury Road and Black Panther were also revolutionary in different ways.

    Avengers movies, as entertaining as they are, aren’t innovative in terms of story telling, or production or anything. Sure, they have a big impact on pop culture, but not on how movies are made. So the industry doesn’t see it as groundbreaking cinema, and doesn’t feel the need to reward it.

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    I’m trying to envision RDJ making the supporting lineup.
    Their viewership is sagging and their reputation is swiftly on the decline.

    No; I can’t imagine it.

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    andrew giordano
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    First off: box office means nothing, just because it’s the highest grossing film of all time, doesn’t mean it deserves to be nominated. Like, the film will get visual effects, MAYBE one or two more, but that’s probably it. Supporting actor is stacked and if RDJ isn’t campaigning, he definitely isn’t going to get nominated. Also, not even the best performance in Endgame from what I can remember of it. As well, as people have mentioned, if Black Panther, the only Marvel film to get a BP nomination, can’t get an actor nod, Endgame, without a BP nod (which it definitely won’t get), definitely won’t get one.

    Whether you want to admit it or not, box office does mean something regarding awards. You think if Black Panther just grossed a standard $600 million and didn’t have nearly as much cultural impact as it did it would be remembered almost a year later for awards season? No. The 1.3 billion box office and the way it impacted our culture helped it secure that nomination for Best Picture. Im not saying I believe this is the way it should be, but box office does influence awards consideration in some cases.

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    andrew giordano
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    Avatar is a shit movie, but at that time it was groundbreaking in terms of sound and visuals and it brought back 3D from the dead. It has a big influence on big-budget cinema. Fury Road and Black Panther were also revolutionary in different ways. Avengers movies, as entertaining as they are, aren’t innovative in terms of story telling, or production or anything. Sure, they have a big impact on pop culture, but not on how movies are made. So the industry doesn’t see it as groundbreaking cinema, and doesn’t feel the need to reward it.

    Well I could argue that point and say Endgame was innovative in it’s story telling, because it was the only film in history to be the conclusion to 21 separate but intertwining storylines and somehow wrap it up in a satisfying way. Why is that not innovative, when it has never been done before?

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    Avatar is better than Endgame..

    Hear me out: many people would disagree with you. You are not voting for Oscars, the Academy is.

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    It has a huge influence, which is why I keep an eye on that box office.

    Anyone recall the last bomb that won BP ? The Hurt Locker? That was the year of the “woman hear me roar” so there were mitigating circumstances. And thank goodness HL is an elegant worthy accomplishment.

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    babypook
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    Hear me out: many people would disagree with you. You are not voting for Oscars, the Academy is.

    He has a right to his opinion. Personally I agree with him. You sound as if you’re brow-beating her to force some kind of compliance.
    Disagreement is normal.

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    EsOS
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    Avatar was literally revolutionary. Lets not pretend Endgame has anywhere near the same impact lmao.

    This thread is useless let’s close it already

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    andrew giordano
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    Avatar was literally revolutionary. Lets not pretend Endgame has anywhere near the same impact lmao. This thread is useless let’s close it already

    The thread is not useless because after almost 40 replies, not one person has answered the question I made in my original statement. I guess people just like to complain instead of answering one question.

    Also, are you actually serious? You’re shitting yourself if you believe what you said. Im not trying to diminish the success of Avatar, but to say Endgame didn’t have “anywhere near the same impact”…. Bruh you film lovers on this site try to act so high and mighty its actually fucking cringe lmao

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    andrew giordano
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    He has a right to his opinion. Personally I agree with him. You sound as if you’re brow-beating her to force some kind of compliance. Disagreement is normal.

    Nah, I am perfectly fine if someone likes Avatar more than Endgame. However, we are talking about the possibility of Endgame receiving award noms outside of technical nominations. Just because this person likes Avatar more than Endgame does not mean that reflects the majority of people. Them liking Avatar more holds no place in this argument.

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    babypook
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    I suppose he has some pluses on his side.
    They know him. past Oscar nominee.
    Box office.
    It’s Disney. They’re mobsters.
    Passion pick.

    I think they’ll push him in the category he has the best chance to be nominated. Not sure it matters.

    Personally I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

    this.

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    babypook
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    Nah, I am perfectly fine if someone likes Avatar more than Endgame. However, we are talking about the possibility of Endgame receiving award noms outside of technical nominations. Just because this person likes Avatar more than Endgame does not mean that reflects the majority of people. Them liking Avatar more holds no place in this argument.

    Neither does this “listen up” stuff.
    I relent however because you’re sounding reasonable. lol

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    The thread is not useless because after almost 40 replies, not one person has answered the question I made in my original statement. I guess people just like to complain instead of answering one question. Also, are you actually serious? You’re shitting yourself if you believe what you said. Im not trying to diminish the success of Avatar, but to say Endgame didn’t have “anywhere near the same impact”…. Bruh you film lovers on this site try to act so high and mighty its actually fucking cringe lmao

    No need to get so salty. Avatar’s visual effects and use of motion capture revolutionized multiple aspects of filmmaking and marked the beginning of a new era in cinema.

    It walked so the MCU could run.

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    ENGLAND
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    I thought Chris Hemsworth was the best actor in Endgame.

    I feel like Disney is upset with Scorcese and this is their way of wanting to prove themselves. RDJ obviously does not want a nomination for playing IM but Disney does. I truly think 5 out of 6 if the original Avengers have checked out of Marvel.

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    Thatcher, Former Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Darlings, the only way he could be pushed to get nominated would be pushing him out a window.

    I was your Prime Minister once.

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