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    DylanMcPhee
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    Whose nomination do you think is the nastiest? Rooney Mara in Carol, or Lakeith Stanfield in Judas? I think these are arguably the two most recent examples of category fraud.

    Both were clearly the leads of their respective films, yet submitted in supporting at the Oscars (Mara was even nominated in lead at separate ceremonies).

    Obviously both deserved their nominations, 100%, and were brilliant in their movies, but they should have been nominated in leading. I really thought that Mara could have won. And with Carol, it was just a clear switch between Rooney and Cate in the category placement; with Judas, they submitted both actors in supporting, as opposed to putting Daniel in lead.

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    Stanfield.

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    Vicki Leekx
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    This situation made me think how egregious it would be to have both Mara and Blanchett in supporting for Carol…where is the outrage?

    Both Mara and Vikander were obviously lead.

    FYC:

    Vitalina Varela, Vitalina Varela (Actress)
    Andrea Riseborough, Karim Saleh, Possessor/Luxor (Actress, Actor)
    Rosamund Pike, Peter Dinklage, I Care a Lot (Actress, Supporting Actor)
    Jim Broadbent, Helen Mirren, The Duke (Actor, Supporting Actress)
    Sophia Loren, Abril Zamora, The Life Ahead (Actress, Supporting Actress)
    Carey Mulligan, Promising Young Woman (Actress)

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    I’m happy with Stanfield’s nom since the supporting field was weak and he’s excellent, but where are we getting the info that he was campaigned in supporting? On Warner Bros’ campaign site he’s listed in Best Actor:

    https://www.wbawards.com/film/?film=judasandtheblackmessiah

    My guess would be that both of the Judas actors were simply affected by the Barry Fitzgerald rule. They received votes in Lead and Supporting but are only allowed to be nominated in one, so the higher vote total determines their placement.

     

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    I’m happy with Stanfield’s nom since the supporting field was weak and he’s excellent, but where are we getting the info that he was submitted in supporting? On Warner Bros’ campaign site he’s listed in Best Actor: https://www.wbawards.com/film/?film=judasandtheblackmessiah My guess would be that both of the Judas actors were simply affected by the Barry Fitzgerald rule. They received votes in Lead and Supporting but are only allowed to be nominated in one, so the higher vote total determines their placement.

    I just wanna know who see’s Judas and thinks Stanfield is supporting

    FYC:

    Best Screenplay: Never Rarely Sometimes Always (Eliza Hitman)
    Best Actress: Sidney Flanigan ("Never Rarely Sometimes Always")

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    Lakeiths cuz Judas was campaigning him in the right category and the academy looked at the campaign and said lol no and put him in supporting to get him nominated. Dont Imagine the same is true for rooney

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    I feel like Mara might’ve been a smidge more egregious but I do think Stanfield is not that far behind.

    To me, he was easily the lead of JUDAS. I also do feel Kaluuya is co-lead but I do feel you could make a case for him to be Supporting. It certainly isn’t the worst case of fraud.

    I do love that Stanfield got recognized at the very least and it makes up for the fact that their category still has SBC in it.

    I almost feel like Stanfield in Supporting is the equivalent of putting Pacino in Supporting for THE GODFATHER.

    “The art of making art is putting it together...”

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    There’s no submitting Lead/Supporting at the Oscars. Voters are free to choose the category they want to nominate performance in for themselves.

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    I feel like Mara might’ve been a smidge more egregious but I do think Stanfield is not that far behind. To me, he was easily the lead of JUDAS. I also do feel Kaluuya is co-lead but I do feel you could make a case for him to be Supporting. It certainly isn’t the worst case of fraud. I do love that Stanfield got recognized at the very least and it makes up for the fact that their category still has SBC in it. I almost feel like Stanfield in Supporting is the equivalent of putting Pacino in Supporting for THE GODFATHER.

    I feel like it’s both for different reasons. Stanfield because the Academy outright IGNORED that they campaigned him as lead. Mara it outrageous because they campaigned her as supporting and Blanchett as lead when it’s clearly the other way around, which is the studio’s fault.

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    Best Screenplay: Never Rarely Sometimes Always (Eliza Hitman)
    Best Actress: Sidney Flanigan ("Never Rarely Sometimes Always")

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    Weirdly, I think I’m more okay with Stanfield than with Mara. At least, him and Kaluuya are nominated in the same category when Mara and Blanchett weren’t.

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    I think Stanfield case is a bit less egregious. One can make a case that Judas is an ensemble picture and has no leads, but Carol is undoubtedly a two woman’s show.

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    One can make a case that Judas is an ensemble picture and has no leads,

    No

    FYC Emmys: "The Crown" in all categories, "I May Destroy You" in all categories, "It's a Sin" in all categories, "Small Axe" in all categories, Billie Piper ("I Hate Suzie"), Yvonne Strahovski ("Stateless") and Ruth Wilson ("His Dark Materials")

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    Hailee Steinfeld

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    I feel like Mara might’ve been a smidge more egregious but I do think Stanfield is not that far behind.

    To me, he was easily the lead of JUDAS. I also do feel Kaluuya is co-lead but I do feel you could make a case for him to be Supporting. It certainly isn’t the worst case of fraud.

    I do love that Stanfield got recognized at the very least and it makes up for the fact that their category still has SBC in it.

    I almost feel like Stanfield in Supporting is the equivalent of putting Pacino in Supporting for THE GODFATHER.

    Pacino in Supporting for Godfather I might actually be the worst of all time.

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    There’s no submitting Lead/Supporting at the Oscars. Voters are free to choose the category they want to nominate performance in for themselves.

    So if the voters voted for Beatrice Straight’s 5 minutes performance in lead actress category, she will be nominated there? Gosh…

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