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    The outrage at the time was that Miramax bought the award through really advertising. Warren Beatty later somehow exposed that Saving Private Ryan had actually spent more on and done more advertising.

    I think they are both fine films. (I’d vote for Shakespeare though.)

    I think Shakespeare in Love really addresses the longing some people have to be actors (she goes to such lengths to get on stage.)

    Since the largest part of the academy is actors I think that is why the film spoke to them.

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    Mukund
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    I’m surprised by this near unanimous support for Shakespeare in Love. Did not expect that.

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    Honey
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    I’m surprised by this near unanimous support for Shakespeare in Love. Did not expect that.

    shouldnt be that surprising, 3 of the other bp nominees had no lead actresses and nobody really cares about the Elizabeth movie besides blanchett

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    Dan Jo
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    I haven’t watched Thin Red Line yet. I think Shakespeare’s win is not that worst at all. I enjoyed the movie somehow. But I don’t mind about Ryan either. The only thing that makes it controversial is that people around are exaggerating its victory.

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    Hinrich689
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    I can’t believe people here are actually picking that forgotten ordinary period drama instead of the monumental war film that moved a lot of people, transformed the war film genre, and is actually remembered by a lot of people. Saving Private Ryan all the way.

    The Thin Red Line was great, but it is certainly very slow, too poetic and just not crowd-pleasing.

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    Hammad Asif
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    I have seen SPR not SIL and it’s a masterpiece for ages and I have seen many outrage against SIL for wining over SPR,I can’t comment on that as I haven’t seen SIL but SPR was brilliant,just brilliant.

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    Thatcher, Prime Minister of GoldDerby
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    Shakespeare in Love is the right answer.

    Lena Headey hasn't got an Emmy for Game of Thrones????? Emmys you need to win her right now!!

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    Kubrick
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    Shakespeare in Love is enchanting, and I have always been fond of the win. Gwyneth’s too! She was positively radiant, and unlike Paltrow herself, Blanchett went on to find even greater success and Academy recognition many times over.

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    The outrage at the time was that Miramax bought the award through really advertising. Warren Beatty later somehow exposed that Saving Private Ryan had actually spent more on and done more advertising.

    I think they are both fine films. (I’d vote for Shakespeare though.)

    I think Shakespeare in Love really addresses the longing some people have to be actors (she goes to such lengths to get on stage.)

    Since the largest part of the academy is actors I think that is why the film spoke to them.

    Fact is dreamworks spent more than Miramax in TRADES only. But Miramax didn’t just spend big in trades! Miramax had two or three page ads in magazines and newspapers when that still was done! And not just Arts sections either!! Miramax would buy an ad in the main news sections! So you would have your double truck ads and more!! It was total spending spree and Miramax did buy it!

    Saving private Ryan was robbed brutally and SIL only exists popularly today because it’s in scary movie 1!

    I didn’t agree with dreamworks insane decision to say “vote spr-support veterans” insurance campaign. It was dumb. They should have kept relentlessly on the stomach churning brutality and violence and realism. But then they heard academy voters weren’t watching the screener to avoid reliving the experience so felt they had to switch to support the veterans.

    SIl was an absurd and ridiculous win that reflected spending and a little squeemishness

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    RobertPius
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    It always bothered me a little that in Saving Private Ryan all these men die just to save Private Ryan. Couldn’t they have sent a telegraphed message somehow to find him?

    Plus the film did get a lot of criticism for its ending. People felt like with Schindler’s List Spielberg let it run on a bit too long and get maudlin. Plus he messed with the narrative a bit in that it seems like we are being told the story through Tom Hanks’eyes but we aren’t.

    Just saying that the film wasn’t universally praised so these things could have cost it votes.

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    Saving Private Ryan peaked in its first 20 minutes after that is a typical Spielberg experience movie with all the sentimentality that he has infested all of his films. Don’t get me wrong, SPR is a great movie but Shakespeare In Love was the right winner.

    FYC: Drama Series: Game of Thrones, Succession, Bodyguard. Drama Lead Actress: Emilia Clarke, Drama Lead Actor: Richard Madden, Jeremy Strong. Limited Series: Chernobyl

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    BTN
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    I think the final battle is more of a major accomplishment than the D-day Landing scene! So while the “peaks in first 29 minutes” was expressed by many I don’t agree with it. It starts at an extraordinary level has a few lulls but there is the epic conclusion and then you have the “epilogue”. I am the same. I thought it was miller. But then it was Ryan. You obviously see miller die but you still remember the first scene. Anyway “last five minutes are a little flawed-the whole movie doesn’t deserve Bp anymore” is a little extreme. Such a great ensemble! The war-lol-over who was best was memorable! Sizemore or Pepper or Ribisi or Davies! I liked Danson.

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    Harry king
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    i dont like anyone of them .

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    FairWeatherAffair
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    The Thin Red Line was great, but it is certainly very slow, too poetic and just not crowd-pleasing.

    1. Not a problem.
    2. No such thing exists.
    3. Another great reason to love the film.

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    Kevin Jacobsen covered this famous Oscar race with Joyce Eng on his podcast last year.

    And the Runner-Up Is…SAVING PRIVATE RYAN

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