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    James Breheney
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    Not only does the scenario of a film being nominated in both categories harm its chances in BP but it also makes the Best International Film category noncompetitive. If a foreign film gets enough votes to make the BP line-up, why not remove it from contention in Best International Film and nominate what would usually be the 6th place film instead?

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    that won’t make said nominee much more competitive in bp and on the other hand, increases its chances of going home emptyhanded drastically, I’d rather not

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    that won’t make said nominee much more competitive in bp and on the other hand, increases its chances of going home emptyhanded drastically, I’d rather not

    Sure it would. That way there would be no out-vote for voters.

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    No

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    If this would be applied, it should also be applicable to animated features

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    Sure it would. That way there would be no out-vote for voters.

    that’s far from their biggest obstacle, the lack of accessibility and industry narrative is what hurts foreign films the most, parasite can break through that because it’s essentially a blockbuster at this point

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    They should end that category altogether, being foreign is not a quality. Open the Oscars internationally, that can improve their year-by-year diminished prestige and loss of viewership.

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    What used to happen often is that a film would be nominated for Best Foreign Language Film in one year and then the very next year be eligible in other categories, usually showing up in writing and a few times in Director. So Amarcord won for BFLF for 1974 and then was nominated for Best Director in 1975. Day For Night for 1973 and then Truffaut and Valentina Cortesa were nominated in 1974, etc. Often a film nominated for BFLF would get writing nominations the next year. I wish they would still do this because most of us still haven’t seen Portrait of a Lady on Fire, as it hasn’t been released everywhere yet, so for me it will be a 2020 film despite having been made and released in 2019.

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    This makes no sense lol

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    that’s far from their biggest obstacle, the lack of accessibility and industry narrative is what hurts foreign films the most, parasite can break through that because it’s essentially a blockbuster at this point

    It’s made less than $30m domestic and will struggle to reach 35 by Oscar night.

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    I think the thinking is backwards on this, I don’t believe voters start at the bottom of their ballot and work up (the way we see the results revealed) but they start with Best Picture and work down. So if a foreign language film is strong enough to win it will.

    The ‘lesser’ picture awards were created as foreign/ animated/ documentary films have a disadvantage in the major races, not the existence of the categories creates the disadvantage.

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    Too lazy to check but… did ALL of the foreign BP nominees from before win the Best Foreign Film/International Film award?

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    Too lazy to check but… did ALL of the foreign BP nominees from before win the Best Foreign Film/International Film award?

    I found two that weren’t submitted by their country, the only one that was nominated in foreign film and didn’t win was the emigrants, but it was nominated in best picture the year after it lost foreign film

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    I found two that weren’t submitted by their country, the only one that was nominated in foreign film and didn’t win was the emigrants, but it was nominated in best picture the year after it lost foreign film

    Babel and Letters from Iwo Jima?

     

    also I find it funny how some sites don’t count Inglourious Basterds as a foreign language film when 70% of the dialogue is not in English. (even the globes goofed and nominated it everywhere).

     

    yes I know it’s an American co-production but so was the Farewell lol.

     

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    Babel and Letters from Iwo Jima?

    I excluded those, Cries and Whispers and The Postman were the ones I was talking about

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