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    Vicki Leekx
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    The “true colors” of Will Smith lol. Newsflash. Will Smith is NOT, nor was he ever, your good ole Negro who you could pat on the head and watch him smile wide and sing to your children like Uncle Remus in Song Of The South. He’s a man with flaws, insecurities, and emotions just like any other human being. Will Smith, despite the attacks on his character and marriage has managed to maintain a level of professionalism and high character for over thirty years across not one, but THREE genres of entertainment (Film, Music, Television) throughout those thirty years. He gets in one little fight and white America wants to clutch their pearls and gasp at the horror of the reality that the man they anointed the “Good One” has a little aggression in him. And now its time to wipe away THIRTY YEARS of everything decent he HAS done, attained, or represented because ONE public mistake pulled the wool from over your eyes. If Chris Rock himself isn’t pressing charges and calling for Will Smith’s head and Will has apologized for his actions then that should be the end of it. Will Smith doesn’t have a history of bad behavior or aggression. Before this the only time he’s ever been seen striking another individual is when that individual SEXUALLY ASSAULTED HIM (which should be a universally agreed upon occasion when it IS ok to use violence in retort) Will Smith’s image and his true character were upheld by the majority amount of support he was given directly AFTER the incident. His peers obviously were shocked and concerned after the incident because they immediately went to check on and console HIM. Nobody gave thought to the man who insulted his wife (for no reason) it was about making sure WILL was ok, which I think speaks more to Will’s character and personality than the incident itself.

    I’m not sure why you’re bringing race into this incident when it’s irrelevant? The comedian’s job is to poke fun at the privileged guests. The fact those people consoled and celebrated with the perpetrator of assault instead of the victim says it all, let them exist in their above the law bubbles.

    The mask slipped for the world to see, Smith’s ego uncensored, PR typed apologies can’t rewrite history recorded on live TV. But as one of Smith’s biggest defenders on here I’m probably wasting my time with you as you’ll only ever see him as a victim in this case…

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    He gets in one little fight and white America wants to clutch their pearls and gasp at the horror of the reality that the man they anointed the “Good One” has a little aggression in him. And now its time to wipe away THIRTY YEARS of everything decent he HAS done, attained, or represented because ONE public mistake pulled the wool from over your eyes.

    I am loathe to reply here, because I clearly don’t have the lived experience that is shaping your response.

    But I can assure you, that just from me personally, I would be reacting the same to this incident, (which I don’t actually care about other than as a wtf TV moment) if the person involved was white, black, man, woman, or centaur.

    Swearing at the mike like Melissa Leo would be “one mistake”. Heck, losing his cool and swearing at Rock in that moment would be “one mistake.” Taking the role in live action Aladdin was “one mistake.”

    Mistakes are things that are accidents or don’t actually hurt anyone.

    Deliberately going up to the stage and committing physical assault took effort. You know how it was a choice and not an “Oh no, I lost my cool?” Because literally none of the hundreds of people invited to any of the previous 93 events, or any other live TV event of that type in all the intervening years, had done that. People are reacting because this is something that has never happened before. If Amy Schumer tool out a switchblade halfway through the show we’d be talking about that too.

    Defending this is saying that you think an appropriate response to a joke that hurts your feelings is to physically hurt that person, and that a man of 53 years of age shouldn’t be expected to know how to resist that impulse.

    Will it wipe out a 30 year buildup of good will? Probably not. Will people think of him different? Definitely.

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    I’m not sure why you’re bringing race into this incident when it’s irrelevant? The comedian’s job is to poke fun at the privileged guests. The fact those people consoled and celebrated with the perpetrator of assault instead of the victim says it all, let them exist in their above the law bubbles. The mask slipped for the world to see, Smith’s ego uncensored, PR typed apologies can’t rewrite history recorded on live TV. But as one of Smith’s biggest defenders on here I’m probably wasting my time with you as you’ll only ever see him as a victim in this case…

    The vast mayority of people crucifiying Smith on social media are whites. They’re going after him because he’s black. Nothing else. Nothing more.

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    This. I remember how Halle Berry’s historic win was supposedly going to open up doors for lead black actress winners following her, and 20+ years, we’re still waiting. We don’t know what the ramifications of Sunday night will be for Will Smith’s future at the Academy or the POC nominees that follow him either. We do know that the Academy is made up of a majority of old white men, and silent majorities will act as they normally act.

    That’s funny because apperantly Smith is the God of black people, and if he does something bad everyone else should pay for his mistake.

    If you want to tell how racist people are, and it includes the Academy. Funny how Polanski a child rapist didn’t prevent white directors from  winning an Oscar. According to The Academy and its supporters, Child Rape is nothing, but slapping someone because they talked shit about your wife is the worst thing ever.

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    No. And if he does, they should also Woody Allen, Roman Polansky, Harvey Weinsten, Brad Pitt, Gary Oldman and all (curiously, all white men) Academy Awarded with assault and harassment accusations (some of them even condemned by the Justice).

    This whole comparison is disingenous. Will Smith interrupted an Oscars ceremony with his assault. He went on stage and attacked a presenter, and then shouted obscenities at him. This is an Academy-specific incident and therefore it is the Academy’s business.

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    I don’t understand why people are treating Smith with kids gloves as if he’s still the teenager in Fresh Prince. He is a 53 year old man who interrupted the most prestigious event in film to smack someone round the chops. The joke was out of order, but such an overreaction. I honestly can’t fathom how people are defending this. I have no strong feelings about Will either way, but I do think his judgement very seriously lapsed.

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    That’s funny because apperantly Smith is the God of black people, and if he does something bad everyone else should pay for his mistake.

    If you want to tell how racist people are, and it includes the Academy. Funny how Polanski a child rapist didn’t prevent white directors from winning an Oscar. According to The Academy and its supporters, Child Rape is nothing, but slapping someone because they talked shit about your wife is the worst thing ever.

    No, and I didn’t imply that. What I said if you bothered to read what I posted was that perception is clearly a thing with the current Academy membership. Berry was supposed to open all of these doors for POC lead actress winners after her historic win, and that didn’t happen. Smith physically assaulting another black man on global television will not only have repercussions for HIS public image and HIS future Oscar chances, but to those black men who follow him. There’s a wide span between Forest Whitaker and Will Smith for a reason. I brought up Polanski and Weinstein previously, so save your “gotchas” for someone else. If you’re going to take away Smith’s Oscar, then please also take away Weinstein’s, Polanski’s, Allen’s, and Spacey’s Oscars. If you’re going to revoke Smith’s membership or ban him from future ceremonies, precedents have already been set with Cosby, Weinstein, and Polanski.

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    To answer the question again…Will’s Oscar should not be taken away. He is a human being, and he made a terrible, but not unforgivable mistake.

    Anyone who is reading this has made a mistake and will continue to do so. So you don’t get the right to judge. I’m glad Will has apologized. Move on.

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    Oscar aside: what do we think this will mean for Will’s future career?

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    Oscar aside: what do we think this will mean for Will’s future career?

    This will blow over. He’ll do interviews in the future going into detail about what he was feeling that night. and I’m sure him and Chris will bury the hatchet.

    He is still beloved. Look at how much people were rooting for him in the room when he won. That moment was uncharacteristic for Will, which is why it was so shocking.

    It’ll take some time, but he’ll be okay. I think it may be even a good idea for him to start directing ala Clint Eastwood/Denzel/Robert Redford.

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    Anyone who is reading this has made a mistake and will continue to do so. So you don’t get the right to judge.

    Lmao as if you’re equating life’s typical mistakes with actual assault

    Reminds me of this:

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    Oscar aside: what do we think this will mean for Will’s future career?

    Probably less than people presume in the moment.

    I would guess he will not be actively campaigned for Oscars for a very long time, if ever again (ie maybe in twenty years).

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    Lmao as if you’re equating life’s typical mistakes with actual assault

    Reminds me of this:

    Well YEAH people don’t generally go around hitting people,, but how do you know that the mistakes you make or the things you say don’t affect people in ways you aren’t privy to? Think about that.

    And great. nice picture.

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    I’m not sure why you’re bringing race into this incident when it’s irrelevant? The comedian’s job is to poke fun at the privileged guests. The fact those people consoled and celebrated with the perpetrator of assault instead of the victim says it all, let them exist in their above the law bubbles. The mask slipped for the world to see, Smith’s ego uncensored, PR typed apologies can’t rewrite history recorded on live TV. But as one of Smith’s biggest defenders on here I’m probably wasting my time with you as you’ll only ever see him as a victim in this case…

    Race does partially have something to do with this.  Majority of people tearing him apart are whites.  That’s something you don’t seem to understand.

    This will blow over. He’ll do interviews in the future going into detail about what he was feeling that night. and I’m sure him and Chris will bury the hatchet. He is still beloved. Look at how much people were rooting for him in the room when he won. That moment was uncharacteristic for Will, which is why it was so shocking. It’ll take some time, but he’ll be okay. I think it may be even a good idea for him to start directing ala Clint Eastwood/Denzel/Robert Redford.

    It will and like you said, it will take time.  Will was stupid but he will learn and most of us including myself still loves him NO MATTER WHAT

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    Gen Z will probably annihilate him but he’s 53. That’s not really his demo any more.

     

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