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January 21, 2016 at 11:16 am #211723
Old age shouldn’t ensure uninterrupted membership either. It goes both ways. I have no problems with Academy membership becoming cyclical instead of lifelong. This isn’t a SCOTUS appointment. And yet again, no one would be “kicked out.” Every privilege would still be afforded associate members except voting. No one wants unqualified voters. They wouldn’t necessarily all be “young” either, but more current within the film industry. These changes wouldn’t only affect out-of-touch old white men. Read up on how this was actually done in the 60s before automatically dismissing it.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 21, 2016 at 12:05 pm #211724The Academy shouldn’t fix anything. The problem is the industry, and I hate how people be bitching about this on Oscar time. Jada Pinkett and Will Smith both have a lot of money they should start producing great stuff for black people. If they want to change the system that’s how they start doing it, not acting like victims by boycotting the Oscars. What they are doing is forcing the Academy to vote for black films to prove a point. And I don’t get why there’s comparison between the Emmys and the Oscars. This year we saw the Emmys acknowledge black people because television is more broad and there is more quality work for black people there. Again this argument proves that the problem is the industry not the Oscars. So even if the Oscars expand their membership and include more black people, the problem is going to persist.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 21, 2016 at 12:11 pm #211725I really hope the Academy goes out of their way to recognize minorities next year, since it is the Academy’s problem and not the industry, according to everyone. It’d be amazing to see the white SJWs uncomfortable, faux praise when Barbershop 3 is a Best Picture nominee, Tyler Perry is the front runner for Best Actor in a Leading Role for A Madea Hallerween. Maybe JLo can get in Best Actress for The Boy Next Door 2.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 21, 2016 at 12:13 pm #211726This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.January 21, 2016 at 5:51 pm #211727The Wrap asked readers for suggestions on how to improve the
Academy. And this is what an Academy member posted by the name Robert L.“Sharon, as an Academy member I am absolutely stunned that you
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would ask your readers to recommend people for membership to the Academy!! The
Academy is more than capable of doing this without the suggestions of people
who know less about films and the people who make them than they do.
Personally, I’m one of the members who believes this whole controversy is a
crock! Each year 6300 individual members vote and I believe most of them take
their voting as seriously as I do. Two years with no Black nominees? So what?
If the performances out there aren’t as good as the ones selected so be it. It’s
called VOTING. There were also white actors and directors left out this year-
Steve Carell, Ridley Scott, Steven Spielberg, ect. That’s just the way things
happen. Two years ago Twelve years a Slave won Best Picture, among various
other awards. And personally, although a good movie about an important subject,
I didn’t think it was a Best Picture or the Best Picture. But apparently enough
other members did. The same members who didn’t vote for any Black actors this
year. As I said, it’s called VOTING. The Academy has rigorous standards in each
branch for membership invitations- based on the quality of someone’s word in
the industry over a period of time. There are certainly minorities who fit this
criteria and have been and continue to be offered membership. But to lower the
standards to increase the number of Blacks and other minority members is
terribly wrong and would diminish the honor that Academy membership is.”January 21, 2016 at 6:24 pm #211728The Wrap asked readers for suggestions on how to improve the
Academy. And this is what an Academy member posted by the name Robert L.“Sharon, as an Academy member I am absolutely stunned that you
would ask your readers to recommend people for membership to the Academy!! The
Academy is more than capable of doing this without the suggestions of people
who know less about films and the people who make them than they do.
Personally, I’m one of the members who believes this whole controversy is a
crock! Each year 6300 individual members vote and I believe most of them take
their voting as seriously as I do. Two years with no Black nominees? So what?
If the performances out there aren’t as good as the ones selected so be it. It’s
called VOTING. There were also white actors and directors left out this year-
Steve Carell, Ridley Scott, Steven Spielberg, ect. That’s just the way things
happen. Two years ago Twelve years a Slave won Best Picture, among various
other awards. And personally, although a good movie about an important subject,
I didn’t think it was a Best Picture or the Best Picture. But apparently enough
other members did. The same members who didn’t vote for any Black actors this
year. As I said, it’s called VOTING. The Academy has rigorous standards in each
branch for membership invitations- based on the quality of someone’s word in
the industry over a period of time. There are certainly minorities who fit this
criteria and have been and continue to be offered membership. But to lower the
standards to increase the number of Blacks and other minority members is
terribly wrong and would diminish the honor that Academy membership is.”He sounds like someone who supports Donald Trump’s candidacy for President.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 21, 2016 at 6:52 pm #211729This whole subject keeps getting more ridiculous by the minute. Now there’s a thread asking if this whole thing will result in Idris Elba winning at SAG. That’s exactly what the situation is going to turn into, people either thinking it, or doing it. Next year, when we get another Idris Elba as the only black actor with a serious chance to get nominated, nobody will take that person out of their predictions…because he’s black. And we NEED to have a black actor nominated or Jada will make another video and Spike won’t come. If that’s not racism, I don’t know what is. Deserving people will, for at least a couple of years, be unfairly questioned about their performance and favoritism by a group of voters because of all this “issue”.
And I fail to understand how is it possible that people who are Oscar voters, winners and Oscar conscious such as Clooney, Nyongo, the Pinket Smiths and Ruffalo, to name a few, can seriously keep feeding this fire of people not being nominated because there’s a “problem” within the Academy. Did they suddenly forget how the whole game works, that there are plenty of factors that go into this whole awards race and sometimes some people just don’t make it far enough regardless of their race? Do they actually believe somebody got snubbed for racism?
Enough!. My dream would be to know who exactly is the non-nominated black actor snubbed for racism and absolutely 100% nothing else? I need to know who this person is…or who these people are because apparently there were many of them. I need somebody to tell me a name, tell me just one fucking name. Because back when Brokeback Mountain supossedly lost because of homophobia you had plenty of reasons to believe it actually was, this racism issue, not so much.
I do agree that the Academy members need to be more diverse, but there’s a ridiculous implication by some people that if I’m a minority I will vote for minorities and unlike white people, I WILL be able to find Tangerine in a theater somewhere because you know, I’m black and so is Mya Taylor, and we all know each other, so we know where Tangerine is playing and white people don’t. And also, because I’m black, I will also think that Taylor is deserving of a nomination. And since I’m black, I will also automatically believe Will Smith was that good in Concussion. And because I’m black, I will nominate Compton for best film. I mean how could I not? Or because I’m latino, Benicio del Toro is an automatic nominee and Edgar Ramirez didn’t have a weak character in Joy, who gives a fuck, I’m latino, I’ll vote for latinos. It’s insulting.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 21, 2016 at 7:24 pm #211730I do agree that the Academy members need to be more diverse, but there’s a ridiculous implication by some people that if I’m a minority I will vote for minorities and unlike white people, I WILL be able to find Tangerine in a theater somewhere because you know, I’m black and so is Mya Taylor, and we all know each other, so we know where Tangerine is playing and white people don’t. And also, because I’m black, I will also think that Taylor is deserving of a nomination. And since I’m black, I will also automatically believe Will Smith was that good in Concussion. And because I’m black, I will nominate Compton for best film. I mean how could I not? Or because I’m latino, Benicio del Toro is an automatic nominee and Edgar Ramirez didn’t have a weak character in Joy, who gives a fuck, I’m latino, I’ll vote for latinos. It’s insulting.
I can’t speak for how it is in other countries; but if you visit any suburban theater in the US, older, white audiences (not much different than the typical Academy member) almost never attend movies aimed at black audiences. I’m white and there was not a single white person over the age of 40 in the theater when I went to see Straight Outta Compton. Academy members are not nominating members of minorities nor films aimed at them because they are not watching the films in the first place. I would bet less than 10% of the Academy members who are white and over the age of 60 actually watched their SOC screeners, assuming they received them. If that’s not racism, then I don’t know what you would call it. The problem is compounded further by filmmakers – both the large studios and the independent ones – which refuse to cast minorities in their films. For example, why was a white woman cast in Room instead of a woman of color?
So you have a complex problem where minorities are not being hired to star or work behind the camera on films which prevents them from even being considered for an Oscar. Then when they do manage to become involved in a film, the largely older and white Academy voters won’t watch their films anyway. It is an absolutely ugly situation with racism at the very center of it.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 21, 2016 at 7:46 pm #211732If there were 10 nominees for best picture SOC still wouldn’t be nominate not because of race but because there were better options…just look the list of nominations and others precursors (not counting the ridiculous SAG nods in early december when some films weren’t even open). There’s evidence that Carol, Ex Machina, Star Wars, Sicario or The Danish Girl would be nominated before SOC.
ReplyCopy URLThe Oscar needs to get rid of the preferential ballot so it can name a deserving movie as Best Picture again.
January 22, 2016 at 10:01 am #211733So from now on, they should just make their choices diverse, instead of voting for the best. Okay.
It seems you have an anger towards minorities. I think you should work that out. I’m all for affirmative action because that is the only way to even the playing field. As you see, the Academy has shout out minorities for the past 2 years. This must change.
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