Supporting Actress 2007. Why JHud??

[wgoran Joined: Jan 19th, 2021 Topics: 1 Posts: 8 View Predictions]

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Jennifer Hudson’s win for Dreamgirls was very underwhelming especially considering it was a pretty solid lineup with the Babel ladies and Cate Blanchett so I swapped JHud for Emily Blunt in Devil Wears Prada but personally I would have voted for Rinko Kikuchi.

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[galaxy98 Joined: Oct 21st, 2018 Topics: 11 Posts: 233 View Predictions]

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She was the popular vote, and her performance were showy, a singer turned actress, gain weight, etc. A winning criteria the oscars loves so much.

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[Bassett Joined: Dec 21st, 2016 Topics: 9 Posts: 4291 View Predictions]

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– The Babel ladies were foreign actresses and cancelled each other, though Kikuchi was more acclaimed

– Abigail Breslin was 11 years old

– Cate Blanchett won the previous year

Meanwhile Hudson won for a role that had previously already won a Tony and a Grammy Award. She had one huge show-stopping moment and frankly, she was the only way to give a major award to Dreamgirls

FYC :

Best Actress - Viola Davis, Frances McDormand
Best Actor - Delroy Lindo, Chadwick Boseman
Best Supporting Actor - Colman Domingo, Glynn Turman
Best Picture - Nomadland
Best Director - Chloé Zhao
SAG Ensemble - Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Best Cinematography - Nomadland

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[Lady Bird Ronan Joined: Mar 20th, 2019 Topics: 0 Posts: 800 View Predictions]

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Her competition that year was weak. Not performance wise but more on narrative I guess. Babel ladies cancelled each other out but agree that Kikuchi was more acclaimed, Blanchett had just won 2 years earlier and Breslin was a literal child. I wouldn’t have nominated JHud but I did enjoyed her performance.

FYC

Picture: "Minari"
Director: Chloé Zhao, "Nomadland"
Actor: Delroy Lindo, "Da 5 Bloods"
Actress: Carey Mulligan, "Promising Young Woman"
Supporting Actor: Glynn Turman, "Ma Rainey's Black Bottom"
Supporting Actress: Youn Yuh-jung, "Minari"

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[Dan Backslide Joined: Apr 24th, 2016 Topics: 63 Posts: 5680 View Predictions]

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Bassett wrote:

– The Babel ladies were foreign actresses and cancelled each other, though Kikuchi was more acclaimed – Abigail Breslin was 11 years old – Cate Blanchett won the previous year Meanwhile Hudson won for a role that had previously already won a Tony and a Grammy Award. She had one huge show-stopping moment and frankly, she was the only way to give a major award to Dreamgirls

Also she was a lead in supporting.

I disagree that she was the only way to give Dreamgirls a major award as Murphy was considered the frontrunner to win for it as well, though outside factors didn’t help him.

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[estrelas Joined: Jul 25th, 2018 Topics: 2 Posts: 3725 View Predictions]

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Dan Backslide wrote:

Also she was a lead in supporting. I disagree that she was the only way to give Dreamgirls a major award as Murphy was considered the frontrunner to win for it as well, though outside factors didn’t help him.

If Norbit hadn’t came out that year, I think he would’ve won.

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[fefface Joined: Jan 14th, 2020 Topics: 2 Posts: 859 View Predictions]

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I agree that Dreamgirls’ award should have been Murphy. But the Academy loves rewarding ‘one big showy scene’ performances in Supporting. That’s how Anne Hathaway grabbed the win. Could be argued for Laura Dern too, though she had a couple of showy moments.

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[Bassett Joined: Dec 21st, 2016 Topics: 9 Posts: 4291 View Predictions]

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Dan Backslide wrote:

Also she was a lead in supporting. I disagree that she was the only way to give Dreamgirls a major award as Murphy was considered the frontrunner to win for it as well, though outside factors didn’t help him.

True but it’s worth noting that Dreamgirls massively underperformed in Oscar nominations. Missed the Best Picture nom despite winning the Globe (over LMS) + hitting PGA/DGA and SAG. Also didn’t hit any of the big 5 despite getting 8 noms overall. It was pretty clear that AMPAS didn’t like it as much as expected and that it was not winning two acting awards

Sacrificing Murphy in favor of veteran and previous nominee Alan Arkin made more sense than Hudson for any of her competitors

Also Norbit.. lol

FYC :

Best Actress - Viola Davis, Frances McDormand
Best Actor - Delroy Lindo, Chadwick Boseman
Best Supporting Actor - Colman Domingo, Glynn Turman
Best Picture - Nomadland
Best Director - Chloé Zhao
SAG Ensemble - Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Best Cinematography - Nomadland

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[wgoran Joined: Jan 19th, 2021 Topics: 1 Posts: 8 View Predictions]

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fefface wrote:

I agree that Dreamgirls’ award should have been Murphy. But the Academy loves rewarding ‘one big showy scene’ performances in Supporting. That’s how Anne Hathaway grabbed the win. Could be argued for Laura Dern too, though she had a couple of showy moments.

Hathaway maybe. But with Laura, her nom/win was only about her and her family. Ngl I thought she was excellent in MS but the role felt like those roles that win Guest Emmy’s.

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[FairWeatherAffair Joined: May 11th, 2018 Topics: 7 Posts: 983 View Predictions]

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Kikuchi should have won, but this was such an underwhelming lineup across the board…

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[Jasmine is French Joined: Sep 22nd, 2011 Topics: 46 Posts: 1704 View Predictions]

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If I remember correctly, there was a lot of hoopla around Hudson and her one scene. She had lost American Idol a couple of years earlier, being eliminated in the top 9 finals

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[Brayden Fitzsimmons Joined: May 3rd, 2015 Topics: 111 Posts: 7515 View Predictions]

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Bassett wrote:

True but it’s worth noting that Dreamgirls massively underperformed in Oscar nominations. Missed the Best Picture nom despite winning the Globe (over LMS)

All of this. Just look at CNN news banner while the nominations were being announced.

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[Brayden Fitzsimmons Joined: May 3rd, 2015 Topics: 111 Posts: 7515 View Predictions]

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wgoran wrote:

considering it was a pretty solid lineup with the Babel ladies and Cate Blanchett so I swapped JHud for Emily Blunt in Devil Wears Prada but personally I would have voted for Rinko Kikuchi.

• Babel was too foreign, unknown and spilt the vote with each other.
• Spencer was a child.
• Blanchett just won.

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[nkb325 Joined: Feb 6th, 2012 Topics: 22 Posts: 1709 View Predictions]

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wgoran wrote:

Hathaway maybe. But with Laura, her nom/win was only about her and her family. Ngl I thought she was excellent in MS but the role felt like those roles that win Guest Emmy’s.

Laura Dern won her oscar for BLL season 2, honestly

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[gabspss Joined: Sep 10th, 2018 Topics: 96 Posts: 1422 View Predictions]

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Dreamgirls still had 8 nominations and won 2 Oscars so I wouldn’t say it massively underperformed.

I have not seen Babel, but from the three I seen I would definetely give the win to Jennifer Hudson who was AMAZING in Dreamgirls.

It's about the chaotic editing in Moulin Rouge!

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