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January 19, 2021 at 9:41 am #1203991294
Jennifer Hudson’s win for Dreamgirls was very underwhelming especially considering it was a pretty solid lineup with the Babel ladies and Cate Blanchett so I swapped JHud for Emily Blunt in Devil Wears Prada but personally I would have voted for Rinko Kikuchi.
ReplyJanuary 19, 2021 at 9:45 am #1203991313She was the popular vote, and her performance were showy, a singer turned actress, gain weight, etc. A winning criteria the oscars loves so much.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 9:47 am #1203991336– The Babel ladies were foreign actresses and cancelled each other, though Kikuchi was more acclaimed
– Abigail Breslin was 11 years old
– Cate Blanchett won the previous year
Meanwhile Hudson won for a role that had previously already won a Tony and a Grammy Award. She had one huge show-stopping moment and frankly, she was the only way to give a major award to Dreamgirls
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Best Actress - Pénélope Cruz, Olivia Colman
Best Actor - Denzel Washington
Best Supporting Actress - Aunjanue Ellis, Kathryn Hunter
January 19, 2021 at 10:05 am #1203991405Her competition that year was weak. Not performance wise but more on narrative I guess. Babel ladies cancelled each other out but agree that Kikuchi was more acclaimed, Blanchett had just won 2 years earlier and Breslin was a literal child. I wouldn’t have nominated JHud but I did enjoyed her performance.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 10:07 am #1203991412– The Babel ladies were foreign actresses and cancelled each other, though Kikuchi was more acclaimed – Abigail Breslin was 11 years old – Cate Blanchett won the previous year Meanwhile Hudson won for a role that had previously already won a Tony and a Grammy Award. She had one huge show-stopping moment and frankly, she was the only way to give a major award to Dreamgirls
Also she was a lead in supporting.
I disagree that she was the only way to give Dreamgirls a major award as Murphy was considered the frontrunner to win for it as well, though outside factors didn’t help him.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 10:10 am #1203991419Also she was a lead in supporting. I disagree that she was the only way to give Dreamgirls a major award as Murphy was considered the frontrunner to win for it as well, though outside factors didn’t help him.
If Norbit hadn’t came out that year, I think he would’ve won.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 10:11 am #1203991423I agree that Dreamgirls’ award should have been Murphy. But the Academy loves rewarding ‘one big showy scene’ performances in Supporting. That’s how Anne Hathaway grabbed the win. Could be argued for Laura Dern too, though she had a couple of showy moments.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 10:15 am #1203991429Also she was a lead in supporting. I disagree that she was the only way to give Dreamgirls a major award as Murphy was considered the frontrunner to win for it as well, though outside factors didn’t help him.
True but it’s worth noting that Dreamgirls massively underperformed in Oscar nominations. Missed the Best Picture nom despite winning the Globe (over LMS) + hitting PGA/DGA and SAG. Also didn’t hit any of the big 5 despite getting 8 noms overall. It was pretty clear that AMPAS didn’t like it as much as expected and that it was not winning two acting awards
Sacrificing Murphy in favor of veteran and previous nominee Alan Arkin made more sense than Hudson for any of her competitors
Also Norbit.. lol
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Best Actress - Pénélope Cruz, Olivia Colman
Best Actor - Denzel Washington
Best Supporting Actress - Aunjanue Ellis, Kathryn Hunter
January 19, 2021 at 10:24 am #1203991458I agree that Dreamgirls’ award should have been Murphy. But the Academy loves rewarding ‘one big showy scene’ performances in Supporting. That’s how Anne Hathaway grabbed the win. Could be argued for Laura Dern too, though she had a couple of showy moments.
Hathaway maybe. But with Laura, her nom/win was only about her and her family. Ngl I thought she was excellent in MS but the role felt like those roles that win Guest Emmy’s.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 11:57 am #1203991716Kikuchi should have won, but this was such an underwhelming lineup across the board…
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 12:01 pm #1203991724If I remember correctly, there was a lot of hoopla around Hudson and her one scene. She had lost American Idol a couple of years earlier, being eliminated in the top 9 finals
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Best Picture: The Way of The Wind
Best Director: Decision to Leave
Best Actress: TAR
Best Actor: The Whale
Best Supporting Actress: The Whale
Best Supporting Actor: Poor ThingsJanuary 19, 2021 at 12:02 pm #1203991726True but it’s worth noting that Dreamgirls massively underperformed in Oscar nominations. Missed the Best Picture nom despite winning the Globe (over LMS)
All of this. Just look at CNN news banner while the nominations were being announced.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 12:08 pm #1203991742considering it was a pretty solid lineup with the Babel ladies and Cate Blanchett so I swapped JHud for Emily Blunt in Devil Wears Prada but personally I would have voted for Rinko Kikuchi.
• Babel was too foreign, unknown and spilt the vote with each other.
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• Spencer was a child.
• Blanchett just won.January 19, 2021 at 12:08 pm #1203991744Hathaway maybe. But with Laura, her nom/win was only about her and her family. Ngl I thought she was excellent in MS but the role felt like those roles that win Guest Emmy’s.
Laura Dern won her oscar for BLL season 2, honestly
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 19, 2021 at 12:16 pm #1203991769Dreamgirls still had 8 nominations and won 2 Oscars so I wouldn’t say it massively underperformed.
I have not seen Babel, but from the three I seen I would definetely give the win to Jennifer Hudson who was AMAZING in Dreamgirls.
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