Supporting Performances exception to the “pattern”

[LLLhawks Joined: Dec 28th, 2018 Topics: 3 Posts: 338 View Predictions]

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Hey. Trying to be better at making predictions for the next Oscars. Can anyone drop names of nominated supporting performances that are…

A. …the movie’s sole acting nomination
B. …and not from someone who got nominated before
C. …and not from a BP contender.

Top of my head, all I can think of is Jacki Weaver for Animal Kingdom (was there any buzz at all for that? That was a weird one.) I keep pulling for some outliers here but they keep on getting snubbed (Chalamet, Elba, Lopez, Bruhl)

I just love movies. And awards.

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[Atypical Joined: Dec 1st, 2011 Topics: 38 Posts: 3127 View Predictions]

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Alec Baldwin for “The Cooler” immediately comes to mind. This has happened a good deal, so don’t stop predicting those outliers! Keep up the good fight lol.

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[LLLhawks Joined: Dec 28th, 2018 Topics: 3 Posts: 338 View Predictions]

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Seems like it hasn’t happened in a while though.

I just love movies. And awards.

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[ricardo505 Joined: Jun 14th, 2015 Topics: 0 Posts: 339 View Predictions]

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Chalamet was nominated previously for Call Me By Your Name.

2003: Patricia Clarkson, Ken Watanabe
2005: Amy Adams
2007: Amy Ryan, Ruby Dee, Casey Affleck
2008: Michael Shannon
2009: Stanley Tucci
2015: Jennifer Jason Leigh
2017: Mary J. Blige

+ Alec Baldwin, Jacki Wever

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[BamaEd Joined: Nov 3rd, 2010 Topics: 2 Posts: 149 View Predictions]

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Jacki Weaver fits the pattern but it really wasn’t out of nowhere. She won at NBR and LA and came in 3rd at the National Society of Film Critics, plus got noms at the Globes and Critics Choice.

The 90s had a few of these that fit the pattern.

Supporting Actress:
Marisa Tomei – My Cousin Vinny (a rare pattern WINNER!)
Mare Winningham – Georgia
Barbara Hershey – Portrait of a Lady

Supporting Actor:
Bruce Davison – Longtime Companion
Michael Lerner – Barton Fink
David Paymer – Mr. Saturday Night
Leonardo DiCaprio – What’s Eating Gilbert Grape
Brad Pitt – 12 Monkeys
Tim Roth – Rob Roy
Edward Norton – Primal Fear

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[Heptapod Joined: Feb 2nd, 2019 Topics: 9 Posts: 1240 View Predictions]

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It’s sad, how the Academy seems to be getting less and less adventurous in its supporting nominations. It’s getting kind of obvious that they’d just rather pick from the top list of agreed-upon BP contenders, with a few big-name outliers, than reach out to more unexpected movies.

They’ve honestly been making much more inspired picks in lead, like Banderas, Dafoe, Mara, and Negga to just name a few.

Emmys FYC: Maya Erskine in PEN15, Paapa Essiedu in I May Destroy You, Keeley Hawes in It's a Sin, Carl Lumbly in TFATWS, Cristin Milioti in Made for Love, Elizabeth Olsen in WandaVision, Billie Piper in I Hate Suzie, Hailee Steinfeld in Dickinson, William Zabka in Cobra Kai

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[LLLhawks Joined: Dec 28th, 2018 Topics: 3 Posts: 338 View Predictions]

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Here’s to wishing they go back to nominating these outliers more often. I would hate skipping over some performances just because they’re not in a buzzy movie, or with a strong lead performer.

I just love movies. And awards.

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[karls Joined: Oct 8th, 2011 Topics: 2 Posts: 142 View Predictions]

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This past Academy Awards Kathy Bates is the only nomination Richard Jewell had

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[Brayfers Joined: Oct 19th, 2018 Topics: 4 Posts: 249 View Predictions]

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Regina King – If Beale Street Could Talk

Mary J. Blige – Mudbound

Jennifer Jason Leigh – The Hateful Eight

Melissa McCarthy – Bridesmaids

Jacki Weaver – Animal Kingdom

 

Letterboxd: Brayfers

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[Emmyfan Joined: Nov 26th, 2010 Topics: 15 Posts: 1428 View Predictions]

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wrote:

Agreed, the supporting nominations are getting lazier by the decade.

These below are from the 80s, and I’m omitting nominees from films with directing and screenplay noms as well, as they could easily have been BP nominees in an expanded field.

Best Supporting Actor
1982: Charles Durning – The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
1984: Noriyuki “Pat” Morita – The Karate Kid
1985: Don Ameche – Cocoon (winner), Robert Loggia – Jagged Edge
1986: Dennis Hopper – Hoosiers
1987: Sean Connery – The Untouchables (winner), Morgan Freeman – Street Smart, Denzel Washington – Cry Freedom
1988: Martin Landau – Tucker: The Man and His Dream, Dean Stockwell – Married to the Mob

Best Supporting Actress
1980: Diana Scarwid – Inside Moves
1983: Linda Hunt – The Year of Living Dangerously (winner), Amy Irving – Yentl
1984: Christine Lahti – Swing Shift
1985: Amy Madigan – Twice in a Lifetime
1987: Norma Aleandro – Gaby: A True Story, Anne Ramsey – Throw Momma from the Train, Ann Sothern – The Whales of August
1989: Julia Roberts – Steel Magnolias

Even controlling for a smaller Best Picture field, that’s a hell of a lot more ‘exceptions to the pattern’ than we get now; 1981 is the only year from that decade when no one fit the criteria. While Jacki Weaver and Jennifer Jason Leigh are the only two from the 2010s when discounting screenplay nominees.

I loved the nomination for Anne Ramsey for Throw Momma From The Train

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[RobertPius Joined: Nov 22nd, 2012 Topics: 26 Posts: 461 View Predictions]

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It was pretty common in the seventies

Barbara Harris, Who is Harry Kellerman….
Lee Grant, The Landlord
Margaret Leighton, The Go-Between
Brenda Vacarro, Once is Not Enough

those are just a few that come to mind off the top of my head. (more amazing was this was before screeners so people actually had to go out and see the films.)

Screeners somehow seemed to have made the academy lazier and they just vote for people in high profile films.

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[Elazul Joined: Sep 2nd, 2017 Topics: 1 Posts: 306 View Predictions]

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Charles Durning’s nomination was quite a waste though…

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[RobertPius Joined: Nov 22nd, 2012 Topics: 26 Posts: 461 View Predictions]

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Elazul wrote:

Charles Durning’s nomination was quite a waste though…

I think Durning was very funny and charming in Best Little…He was the bright spot of the film and it was such change of pace role for him. He wasn’t known as a singer/dancer. (plus he also did good work in Tootsie that year.)

The next year he got another nomination for To Be or Not To Be which I don’t think he deserved.

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[Aunt Peg Joined: Dec 27th, 2011 Topics: 0 Posts: 89 View Predictions]

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Richard Farnsworth, Comes of Horseman (1978)
Tuesday Weld, Looking for Mr. Goodbar (1977)

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