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    Hey. Trying to be better at making predictions for the next Oscars. Can anyone drop names of nominated supporting performances that are…

    A. …the movie’s sole acting nomination
    B. …and not from someone who got nominated before
    C. …and not from a BP contender.

    Top of my head, all I can think of is Jacki Weaver for Animal Kingdom (was there any buzz at all for that? That was a weird one.) I keep pulling for some outliers here but they keep on getting snubbed (Chalamet, Elba, Lopez, Bruhl)

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    Alec Baldwin for “The Cooler” immediately comes to mind. This has happened a good deal, so don’t stop predicting those outliers! Keep up the good fight lol.

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    Seems like it hasn’t happened in a while though.

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    Chalamet was nominated previously for Call Me By Your Name.

    2003: Patricia Clarkson, Ken Watanabe
    2005: Amy Adams
    2007: Amy Ryan, Ruby Dee, Casey Affleck
    2008: Michael Shannon
    2009: Stanley Tucci
    2015: Jennifer Jason Leigh
    2017: Mary J. Blige

    + Alec Baldwin, Jacki Wever

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    Jacki Weaver fits the pattern but it really wasn’t out of nowhere. She won at NBR and LA and came in 3rd at the National Society of Film Critics, plus got noms at the Globes and Critics Choice.

    The 90s had a few of these that fit the pattern.

    Supporting Actress:
    Marisa Tomei – My Cousin Vinny (a rare pattern WINNER!)
    Mare Winningham – Georgia
    Barbara Hershey – Portrait of a Lady

    Supporting Actor:
    Bruce Davison – Longtime Companion
    Michael Lerner – Barton Fink
    David Paymer – Mr. Saturday Night
    Leonardo DiCaprio – What’s Eating Gilbert Grape
    Brad Pitt – 12 Monkeys
    Tim Roth – Rob Roy
    Edward Norton – Primal Fear

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    It’s sad, how the Academy seems to be getting less and less adventurous in its supporting nominations. It’s getting kind of obvious that they’d just rather pick from the top list of agreed-upon BP contenders, with a few big-name outliers, than reach out to more unexpected movies.

    They’ve honestly been making much more inspired picks in lead, like Banderas, Dafoe, Mara, and Negga to just name a few.

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    Agreed, the supporting nominations are getting lazier by the decade.

    These below are from the 80s, and I’m omitting nominees from films with directing and screenplay noms as well, as they could easily have been BP nominees in an expanded field.

    Best Supporting Actor
    1982: Charles Durning – The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
    1984: Noriyuki “Pat” Morita – The Karate Kid
    1985: Don Ameche – Cocoon (winner), Robert Loggia – Jagged Edge
    1986: Dennis Hopper – Hoosiers
    1987: Sean Connery – The Untouchables (winner), Morgan Freeman – Street Smart, Denzel Washington – Cry Freedom
    1988: Martin Landau – Tucker: The Man and His Dream, Dean Stockwell – Married to the Mob

    Best Supporting Actress
    1980: Diana Scarwid – Inside Moves
    1983: Linda Hunt – The Year of Living Dangerously (winner), Amy Irving – Yentl
    1984: Christine Lahti – Swing Shift
    1985: Amy Madigan – Twice in a Lifetime
    1987: Norma Aleandro – Gaby: A True Story, Anne Ramsey – Throw Momma from the Train, Ann Sothern – The Whales of August
    1989: Julia Roberts – Steel Magnolias

    Even controlling for a smaller Best Picture field, that’s a hell of a lot more ‘exceptions to the pattern’ than we get now; 1981 is the only year from that decade when no one fit the criteria. While Jacki Weaver and Jennifer Jason Leigh are the only two from the 2010s when discounting screenplay nominees.

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    Here’s to wishing they go back to nominating these outliers more often. I would hate skipping over some performances just because they’re not in a buzzy movie, or with a strong lead performer.

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    This past Academy Awards Kathy Bates is the only nomination Richard Jewell had

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    Regina King – If Beale Street Could Talk

    Mary J. Blige – Mudbound

    Jennifer Jason Leigh – The Hateful Eight

    Melissa McCarthy – Bridesmaids

    Jacki Weaver – Animal Kingdom

     

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    Agreed, the supporting nominations are getting lazier by the decade.

    These below are from the 80s, and I’m omitting nominees from films with directing and screenplay noms as well, as they could easily have been BP nominees in an expanded field.

    Best Supporting Actor
    1982: Charles Durning – The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas
    1984: Noriyuki “Pat” Morita – The Karate Kid
    1985: Don Ameche – Cocoon (winner), Robert Loggia – Jagged Edge
    1986: Dennis Hopper – Hoosiers
    1987: Sean Connery – The Untouchables (winner), Morgan Freeman – Street Smart, Denzel Washington – Cry Freedom
    1988: Martin Landau – Tucker: The Man and His Dream, Dean Stockwell – Married to the Mob

    Best Supporting Actress
    1980: Diana Scarwid – Inside Moves
    1983: Linda Hunt – The Year of Living Dangerously (winner), Amy Irving – Yentl
    1984: Christine Lahti – Swing Shift
    1985: Amy Madigan – Twice in a Lifetime
    1987: Norma Aleandro – Gaby: A True Story, Anne Ramsey – Throw Momma from the Train, Ann Sothern – The Whales of August
    1989: Julia Roberts – Steel Magnolias

    Even controlling for a smaller Best Picture field, that’s a hell of a lot more ‘exceptions to the pattern’ than we get now; 1981 is the only year from that decade when no one fit the criteria. While Jacki Weaver and Jennifer Jason Leigh are the only two from the 2010s when discounting screenplay nominees.

    I loved the nomination for Anne Ramsey for Throw Momma From The Train

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    It was pretty common in the seventies

    Barbara Harris, Who is Harry Kellerman….
    Lee Grant, The Landlord
    Margaret Leighton, The Go-Between
    Brenda Vacarro, Once is Not Enough

    those are just a few that come to mind off the top of my head. (more amazing was this was before screeners so people actually had to go out and see the films.)

    Screeners somehow seemed to have made the academy lazier and they just vote for people in high profile films.

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    Charles Durning’s nomination was quite a waste though…

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    Charles Durning’s nomination was quite a waste though…

    I think Durning was very funny and charming in Best Little…He was the bright spot of the film and it was such change of pace role for him. He wasn’t known as a singer/dancer. (plus he also did good work in Tootsie that year.)

    The next year he got another nomination for To Be or Not To Be which I don’t think he deserved.

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    Richard Farnsworth, Comes of Horseman (1978)
    Tuesday Weld, Looking for Mr. Goodbar (1977)

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