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  • estrelasdealgeruz
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    Jake Gyllenhaal in Brokeback Mountain (he and Ledger were co leads).

    Ledger is definitely the lead. I re-watched the movie recently and there’s plenty of scenes were Jake’s character is not even there. And towards the end of the middle Jake’s character starts to fade away. And then movie is all about Ledger. The acceptance of his feelings, the relationship with his daughters,  failed relationships , etc. The movie is definitely more about Ledger than Gyllenhaal. The movie begins with Ledger and ends with him.

    Emily blunt is fraudently submitting supporting in A Quiet Place since she has Mary Poppins

    Again. I don’t understand the big deal with AQP and Blunt. They ALL went supporting. ALL OF THEM. AQP is a perfect example of an ensemble movie. There’s no lead in the movie. The movie is about a family and not a specific character in it. Blunt’s character doesn’t even have that much of an arc. If there’s anyone in that movie that might be a lead is Millicent Simmonds. She has by far the biggest arc. Blunt is the maternal protection. She’s there but not doing much. Her biggest stand out are the bath scene and the final shooting. And even in that final scene is Millicent’s character that drives the scene.

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    Jack Albertson in The Subject Was Roses is actually worse than Hutton- he was in 58% of his film, versus the latter’s 52%.

    Also have to include Patty Duke in The Miracle Worker, who was in 61% of her film, just behind O’Neal’s 65%.

    Is not all about screentime. Ordinary People is about a trauma in a family and at the center of that trauma is the Hutton’s character, all the others characters gravitate around his trauma, he is the picture.

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    lovelylovely
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    Is not all about screentime. Ordinary People is about a trauma in a family and at the center of that trauma is the Hutton’s character, all the others characters gravitate around his trauma, he is the picture.

    Oh, I know. I was just talking about screentime.

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    Elazul
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    Catharine Zeta-Jones in Chicago (she and Zellweger were co leads).

    Rewatched Chicago quite recently and they never feel being co-leads, it’s the story of Roxie Hart, really. One of the few cases in my opinion that the Globes did not handle properly.

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    JGibson
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    Again. I don’t understand the big deal with AQP and Blunt. They ALL went supporting. ALL OF THEM. AQP is a perfect example of an ensemble movie. There’s no lead in the movie. The movie is about a family and not a specific character in it. Blunt’s character doesn’t even have that much of an arc. If there’s anyone in that movie that might be a lead is Millicent Simmonds. She has by far the biggest arc. Blunt is the maternal protection. She’s there but not doing much. Her biggest stand out are the bath scene and the final shooting. And even in that final scene is Millicent’s character that drives the scene.

    That reminded me Cicely Tyson in Sounder. I just can’t understand how Tyson and Paul Winfield were pushed in Lead and still got it. Their characters are the perfect example of supporting characters. The film is all about the son.

    And just like Blunt, Cicely had no arc around her besides the movie plot but still had the emotional running scene that sealed her nominations.

    But back to this year, we all know if Mary Poppins weren’t happening (maybe isn’t) the studio would put her for Lead for AQP because she’s the biggest name of the main cast.

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    Lil Tony
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    I didn’t even know Steinfeld was an Oscar nominee. Wow

     

    Biggest category frauds

    Julia Roberts in August: Osage County

    Alicia Vickander in the Danish girl

    Rooney Mara in Carol

    Unpopular opinion… I feel like Viola Davis was supporting in Fences

    FYC Emily Blunt (Mary Poppins Returns) and Lady Gaga (A Star is Born) for best actress

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    xrated48
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    Al Pacino in The Godfather anyone

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    Hoster1
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    Supporting categories winners by percentage:

    https://letterboxd.com/cinematthew/list/best-supporting-actor-oscar-winning-performances-1/detail/

    https://letterboxd.com/cinematthew/list/best-supporting-actress-oscar-winning-performances-2/detail/

    Longest nominated supporting performances by percentage:

    https://letterboxd.com/cinematthew/list/longest-oscar-nominated-supporting-performances-1/detail/

    Longest Supporting Actor winners:
    1. Jack Albertson – The Subject Was Roses – 58,59%
    2. Timothy Hutton – Ordinary People – 52,49%
    3. Walter Brennan – The Westerner – 51,36%
    4. Charles Coburn – The More the Merrier – 47,74%
    5. Peter Ustinov – Topkapi – 47,25%
    6. Haing S. Ngor – The Killing Fields – 45,01%
    7. Walter Matthau – The Fortune Cookie – 44,77%
    8. Christian Bale – The Fighter – 43,71%
    9. Walter Huston – The Treasure of Sierra Madre – 43,68%
    10. Jim Boradbent – Iris – 42,60%

    Longest Supporting Actress winners:
    1. Tatum O’Neal – Paper Moon – 65,49%
    2. Patty Duke – The Miracle Worker – 61,67%
    3. Alicia Vikander – The Danish Girl – 49,88%
    4. Goldie Hawn – Cactus Flower – 46,10%
    5. Jennifer Hudson – Dreamgirls – 39,60%
    6. Viola Davis – Fences – 38,60%
    7. Mary Astor – The Great Lie – 37,51%
    8. Eva Marie Saint – On the Waterfront – 37,27%
    9. Marcia Gay Harden – Pollock – 37,06%
    10. Mira Sorvino – Mighty Aphrodite – 37,03%

    Longest Supporting Actor nominated performances:
    1. Richard Burton – My Cousin Rachel – 85,33%
    2. Gene Hackman – I Never Sang for My Father – 74,04%
    3. Charles Coburn – The Devil and Miss Jones- 73,14%
    4. Randy Quaid – The Last Detail – 68,03%
    5. John Ireland – All the King’s Men – 66,83 %
    6. Don Murray – Bus Stop – 64,51%
    7. Ethan Hawke – Training Day – 61,05%
    8. Roland Young – Topper – 59,89%
    9. Jack Albertson – The Subject Was Roses – 58,77%
    10. Jeff Bridges – Thunderbolt and Lightfoot – 57,74%

    Longest Supporting Actress nominated perofrmances:
    1. Tatum O’Neal – Paper Moon – – 65,69%
    2. Patty Duke – The Miracle Worker – 61,67%
    3. Rooney Mara – Carol – 59,67%
    4. Celeste Holm – Come to the Stable – 58,77%
    5. Cate Blanchett – Notes on a Scandal – 56,24%
    6. Hailee Steinfeld – True Grit – 54,76%

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    JROCK1772
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    I wish there were more sources that contrasted screen time between supporting and lead performances of the same film. As obvious as some of these percentages may be, it would be so much clearer to choose which category an actor should fall in when they have another actor to be contrasted with. The reason Mara should have been nominated in Best Actress was because she actually appears in more screen time than Cate Blanchett (around 5% more, according to Matthew at Letterboxd). Her performance may be more subtle in nature than Blanchett’s, but she’s blatantly a co-leading performance and the fact that the Academy nominated her in the supporting category is baffling.

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    FreemanGriffin
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    Spencer Tracy had supporting roles in both San Francisco (1936) and Captains Courageous (1937; he won for this performance) – Clark Gable and Freddie Bartholomew were the leads in those two films. In CC he doesn’t show up until 30 minutes into the film and is missing from the last 25 minutes of it; Bartholomew is in almost every single scene.

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    adamunc
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    I always feel like Viola is the most blatant in recent years because she won a Tony for the same role in the Lead Actress category.

    With the Tonys, there’s an Administration Committee that adjudicates category placement. They make bizarre decisions sometimes, but still maybe the Academy should consider something similar.

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    I always feel like Viola is the most blatant in recent years because she won a Tony for the same role in the Lead Actress category.

    With the Tonys, there’s an Administration Committee that adjudicates category placement. They make bizarre decisions sometimes, but still maybe the Academy should consider something similar.

    The thing that is interesting is that Mary Alice won a Tony for Fences in 1987, but was in the Featured Actress category. I think what makes the case for Viola interesting is that there were times in the movie where she is in the background during Denzel’s monologues.

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    AwardsBait3818
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    I remember a couple years ago reading that the reason Viola was in lead at the Tony’s was because she was top on the marquee with Denzel, and the Tony’s have a rule stating that if you’re on the marquee you have to submit lead. Never saw the play so I can’t comment on it, but I think she was supporting in the film.

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    Fade
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    I never understood the Viola Davis controversy. Rose is a borderline supporting role in both the play and the film. Fences is all about Troy except for Rose’s one big scene in act two.

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    O´Hara
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    Al Pacino in The Godfather anyone

    Marlon Brando is the one to blame on this case.

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