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    Jus
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    Where do you see 200M for this? There’s no way this cost 200 million to make. Are you including marketing or something?

    Yeah, and I’m guessing it would have to be some mindblowing marketing to push the budget to that number.

    That number seems fake (posted by one obscure site). No valid source has any confirmation for it. So until that happens, no one really knows what’s the real budget. But I’m pretty sure 200M is not it.

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    Just saw the movie and I have very mixed feelings about it. The biggest issue is that there is only one truly likeable rootable character in the whole movie, and the supporting cast is very thin, they have very little to do. Jodie Comer and Adam Driver are the MVP’s acting-wise for me, but part of the problem is that I dislike Matt Damon’s character so much that it throws me out of the story.

    I understand why some are saying Jodie Comer could go supporting rather than lead, since she supports in the first two chapters and has the lead in the third chapter. She gives a remarkable performance. But I also really liked the complexity that Adam Driver brings to his character as well.

    I felt the music was wrong for this movie, it felt like it belonged to a movie set in the U.K. rather than France. The total lack of Gallic feeling was very noticeable in every aspect of the movie.

    It’s a fascinating movie, worth seeing, I give it a B.

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    More from the IndieWire interview with Comer, Part 2: Comer said that little about the script and its unique format changed during production, though one tweak ensured that its overall perspective remained unimpeachable. Each section of the film opens with intertitles that introduce which character is performing this particular telling, starting with “The Truth According to Jean de Carrouges,” followed by “The Truth According to Jean Le Gris,” and finally, “The Truth According to Marguerite de Carrouges.” But before Marguerite’s story starts, part of the intertitles fade away, until only “The Truth” is left, blazing on the big screen. “I think that was always the intention for all of us,” Comer said. “I think that was actually a decision made in post, when they were editing the movie together, especially in regards to how long that stays, and it stays there for a little while before it fades, which I loved. But we just always wanted and needed people to come away from watching this movie thinking, ‘I know that her story was the truth.’”

    I actually disliked this very much. What’s the point of a medieval Rashomon if we are told who to believe?

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    The total lack of Gallic feeling was very noticeable in every aspect of the movie.

    Did you notice at one point in the first chapter they were speaking English and then they started to sing in French? That stuck out like a sore thumb.

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    I actually disliked this very much. What’s the point of a medieval Rashomon if we are told who to believe?

    Because it’s not Rashomon, the point of the contrasting POVs is to show how warped the guys’ perspectives are by their chauvinistic ideas.

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    Because it’s not Rashomon, the point of the contrasting POVs is to show how warped the guys’ perspectives are by their chauvinistic ideas.

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    Yes, I understand fully well – my point is that it would be a far better movie if we were to have doubts as to who is telling the truth.

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    Yes, I understand fully well – my point is that it would be a far better movie if we were to have doubts as to who is telling the truth.

    I don’t think it would be. The filmmakers, and the contemporary historical consensus, are on Marguerite’s side; what does hedging do except encourage toxic ideas about women making false rape accusations (which is, indeed, something the movie is trying to combat)?

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    Fox mishandled this movie.

    They clearly didn’t have any faith or confidence in it after the tepid Venice debut.

    They decided to not market it well, they didn’t anticipate the increasing critical acclaim of the second wave of reviews.

    It’s the studio’s fault.

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    The box office conversation around the film is weird. I agree its performance is unfortunate, and I blame Disney for screwing up the marketing, but are people going to put the box office of other films like Nightmare Alley, Spencer, House of Gucci and Licorice Pizza under the same scrutiny?

    I think Disney didn’t realize they would have a resurgence in positive reviews later on and maybe that’s why they didn’t bother marketing it well enough after Venice. I’m a Ridley fan and I’ve been following news about the film since it was announced in 2019. I never expected it to be a box smash, even before COVID. I also can’t believe Disney had Salma Hayek and Kumail Nanjiani on Kimmel on October 14-promoting a blockbuster that won’t have issues making money-instead of someone from TLD cast. This is exactly why I previously said I don’t trust Disney when it comes to marketing a non-MCU and non-Star Wars project.

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    i agree with you!

    Just so you know, though, Jodie Comer was supposed to go on Jimmy Fallon’s show on Oct. 14th but it got cancelled (presumably because Killing Eve had a couple COVID cases that ground filming to a halt). Hopefully it gets re-scheduled

    I agree they could have done more marketing but I’m also wondering if it’s just a hard sell to get people to go to theaters for a movie like this.

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    i agree with you! Just so you know, though, Jodie Comer was supposed to go on Jimmy Fallon’s show on Oct. 14th but it got cancelled (presumably because Killing Eve had a couple COVID cases that ground filming to a halt). Hopefully it gets re-scheduled I agree they could have done more marketing but I’m also wondering if it’s just a hard sell to get people to go to theaters for a movie like this.

    The important thing is that the reviews are very positive. Many people expected the film to be bad and get awful reviews. I noticed you commented on the BA thread that the main challenge going forward for Comer will be competition in that category and I agree. It won’t be box office. If Ridley wants his film, cast and crew to get recognized for their work then they need to campaign really hard when award season “officially starts” in November or December with FYC events.

    Paul Thomas Anderson’s movies have all received universal acclaim but they all flopped at the box office. PTA has never had a box office hit but his films haven’t had issues getting award nominations. I’m a PTA fan but I’m not expecting Licorice Pizza to set the world on fire when it gets released in November. Loving (2016) flopped at the box office (12.9 million on a 9 million budget) but Ruth Negga still got award nominations. Bombshell flopped as well, but Charlize and Margot still got award nominations. The Eyes of Tammy Faye flopped (2.3 million at the box office), but many pundits still have Chastain in their top five. For comparison, TLD’s reviews are more positive than Chastain’s film.

    One more thing: I don’t think enough people realize how much of a miracle it is that an old school movie like The Last Duel exists, especially with a heavy subject matter.

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    Disney launched the FYC page for the film, but the categories aren’t available yet. Just a list of dates for screenings in Los Angeles, San Francisco and New York from October to November: https://disneystudiosawards.com/last-duel/screenings/

    I checked the registration page and only members of groups like Women in Film, ACE, ADG, AMPAS, AFI Awards Jury, BAFTA, DGA, MUAHS, PGA, WGA and SAG NOM COMM can RSVP. I wonder if these are the same type of screenings that get hosted by fellow actors who have worked with cast members that are featured in the films being screened. E.g. Adam Driver and Daniel Craig both worked on Logan Lucky, and Craig hosted a tastemaker screening for Marriage Story in 2019. Scarlett Johansson and Eddie Redmayne were in The Other Boleyn Girl and she hosted a screening for The Theory of Everything during the awards campaign for that film.

     

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    These are photos from the screenings I mentioned. Jennifer Lawrence and Emma Stone haven’t worked together but are very good friends. Lawrence hosted a screening for La La Land in New York in 2016. Wonder if Ryan Reynolds will host a TLD screening for Comer. He liked Kevin McCarthy’s tweet praising the film and her performance in it.

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     Yes, I understand fully well – my point is that it would be a far better movie if we were to have doubts as to who is telling the truth.

    Yeah I’m not sure it would be in good idea to take a rape that actually happened to a real-life person and then imply that she might be lying??? That would be in extremely poor taste.

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    To me the biggest shocker was that Disney never backed down from October wide release knowing damn well, that that month will be blockbusters bloodbath. What’s even more bizzare is that they went with wide release instead of limited on the first weekend (that was their original plan). But I don’t know…maybe 45-days window was the reason?

    Overall, puzzling strategy.

    The movie was always a hard sell. No one realistically expected “happy-box office-ending” for it, but those low numbers are still shocking.

    Still, the turn around in reviewes and public response to TLD is amazing and really great to see.

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