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I think it’s always an interesting thing to discuss in retrospect regarding actors (filmmakers too).
There are always examples of actors (or even directors) whose steam felt much stronger than they do now.Thus I wonder at what point (specific year or movie) did their slide or decline occur??
Which actors or filmmakers do you think belong to this group??
ReplyI’ll start with what I think are the perfect examples:
1. George Clooney after The Descendants (2011), he was 50 years old.
His last good movie as a relevant leading man. (I don’t even count Gravity which is a full Sandra Bullock movie, he has only a brief unmemorable appearance).2. Johnny Depp after Alice in Wonderland (2010)
[47 years old]
His last true big hit (i don’t count Black Mass which performed mediocrely on a commercial and a critical level).3. Sean Penn after Milk (2008) [48 years old]. No further explanations needed.
4. Russell Crowe after Cinderella Man (2005) [41 years old]. The first of Crowe’s mediocre flops during that decade which exposed his acting limitations and weaknesses.
5. Nicolas Cage around 2008-2009 [44-45 years old].
I can’t precisely pinpoint a single movie (The Wicker Man? Ghost Rider? Knowing?), but it’s when he started accumulating debts and had to do lots of C-level straight to VOD movies. Despite decent critical acclaim on some recent quirky indie movies, he never recovered his A-list star status.6. Will Smith after After Earth (2013) [45 years old]
He took a break of four years after Hancock and the flop Seven Pounds (2008). He then came back in 2012 with MIB 3 (good commercial success) but he turned down Django Unchained (big mistake) and did After Earth (2013) which started his decline in terms of movie star status and relevance.
Sometimes he has a success once in a while (Suicide Squad, Aladdin, Bad Boys For Life) but it’s simply not the same like it used to be, he’s not the same big movie star anymore.7. Edward Norton after The Italian Job (2003) [34 years old]
His last true good commercial success before The Incredible Hulk failure.8. Morgan Freeman after Invictus (2009) [72 years old].
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This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.I’ll start with what I think are the perfect examples: 1. George Clooney after The Descendants (2011), he was 50 years old. His last good movie as a relevant leading man. (I don’t even count Gravity which is a full Sandra Bullock movie, he has only a brief unmemorable appearance). 2. Johnny Depp after Alice in Wonderland (2010) [47 years old] His last true big hit (i don’t count Black Mass which performed mediocrely on a commercial and a critical level). 3. Sean Penn after Milk (2008) [48 years old]. No further explanations needed. 4. Russell Crowe after Cinderella Man (2005) [41 years old]. The first of Crowe’s mediocre flops during that decade which exposed his acting limitations and weaknesses. 5. Nicolas Cage around 2007-2009 [43-45 years old]. I can’t precisely pinpoint a single movie (Lord of War? The Wicker Man? Ghost Rider?), but it’s when he started accumulating debts and had to do lots of C-level straight to VOD movies. Despite decent critical acclaim on some recent quirky indie movies, he never recovered his A-list star status. 6. Will Smith after After Earth (2013) [45 years old] He took a break of four years after Hancock and the flop Seven Pounds (2008). He then came back in 2012 with MIB 3 (good commercial success) but he turned down Django Unchained (big mistake) and did After Earth (2013) which started his decline in terms of movie star status and relevance. Sometimes he has a success once in a while (Suicide Squad, Aladdin, Bad Boys For Life) but it’s simply not the same like it used to be, he’s not the same big movie star anymore. 7. Morgan Freeman after Invictus (2009) [72 years old].
I agree with all your examples except Will Smith, he’s still got it. I mean as you said he got 3 big hits in recent years (Suicide Squad, Aladdin, Bad Boys 3), that’s good enough to hold onto his star status. And he got King Richard incoming.
And I’d say Depp’s falloff was after Darks Shadow in 2012 and Russel Crowe’s was after 2007. Cage was somewhere around 2013 when he started doing all them B movies. Ghost Rider 2, Season of the Witch were bad but atleast they had some budget.
ReplyCopy URLJonah Hill: Dude went AWOL after 2014 basically which is so weird cause he was in a winning streak. The Penguin role in The Batman could’ve been the role for his comeback.
John Cusack: Around the same as Nic Cage. I think Love and Mercy was the last notable thing he’s done.
Javier Bardem: After Skyfall (2012). Another actor who worked too little and wasted his prime.
Mathew Broderick: The double flops of Godzilla and Inspector Gadget killed his career.
Rob Lowe, Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Molly Ringwald etc. Basically most of the young 80s actors vanished in the 90s.
Mel Gibson: I guess this one is voluntary, he quitted acting for a long time after Signs which was even a blockbuster hit.
Arnold: Starting with Batman and Robin.
Harrison Ford: After 2000. Though like Arnold he was kinda old already.
Val Kilmer: After The Saint? Dude went from starring as Batman to playing Alexander’s dad a few years later.
Christian Slater: Broken Arrow
Antonio Banderas: Another double flops guy with The 13th Warrior and Ecks: Savers vs someone(lol)
ReplyCopy URLChristian Slater: Broken Arrow
Antonio Banderas: Another double flops guy with The 13th Warrior and Ecks: Savers vs someone(lol)
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She was unlucky (Submergence, Euphoria, Light Between Oceans all being flops), but Blue Bayou could be a great vehicle for a comeback.
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