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    Mickey Rourke. John Travolta. Bruce Willis

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    Mickey Rourke. John Travolta. Bruce Willis

    China killed Richard Gere’s career

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    China killed Richard Gere’s career

    how so

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    how so

    China hates Richard Gere so he can’t be in huge budgeted movies. Any huge budgeted movie needs China these years

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    Whilst his career didn’t exactly go off the rails, there has been an alteration in the star of Tom Cruise…. Roughly around Collateral/War Of The Worlds, he does the “Couch Incident” and, from that point onwards he doesn’t work with an “auteur director” again… Rumours says he was tempted with Tarantino, but, more likely, those kinds of directors stopped casting Tom Cruise at that point because of the bad PR and, maybe, because he wanted to be just a movie star, instead of the great actor he was in the 90s and early 2000s.

    Matthew McConaughey’s career pretty much crashes and burns post-Interstellar. I think, in a way, too many good things happened for him at once and he, more or less, peaks with the back-to-back of an Oscar win, one of the most well-regarded TV performances in recent memory and the lead part in a Nolan (also at his peak) film, which was somewhat prestigious, at this point, due to his last few leads including Christian Bale and Leonardo DiCaprio. It doesn’t help he didn’t star in any particularly well-regarded films, at this point. I will say for him, though, that he is sort of making a subtle comeback with The Beach Bum and The Gentlemen – films more or less destined to become cult favourites, due to their director’s backcatalogues and their reception.

    The decline in Jim Carrey’s career starts with Series Of Unfortunate Events, but it doesn’t really come to ahead, until I Love You, Phillip Morris – where it becomes clear he can’t sell a film by his mere presence, although I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the reason for that film’s lack of success was homophobia in regards to mainstream films at the time. His career, then, proceeds to completely collapse from 2011-14, with a series of diminishing returns and genuinely abysmal comedies. It, also, seems like he wanted to take time off from mainstream Hollywood films, but idk. However, he seems to be making a comeback with Sonic The Hedgehog.

    Johnny Depp’s career starts to decline on a critical level post-Sweeney Todd, but his run from The Rum Diary onwards (incl. such masterpieces as Mortedcai, Transcendence and Dark Shadows….)  is when audiences lost interest.

    For directors, Michael Mann starts to flounder with Ali, which is probably the biggest cinematic disappointment of the 21st century. In theory, it should have been the kind of masterpiece that sweeps the Oscars and deserves it. Instead you have an incredibly dull biopic told in an incredibly unengaging way. Collateral, also, signalled a mild-decline. It’s a great film, but it’s a lot more lowkey than his 90s efforts. But, as others have stated, the problems fully arise with Miami Vice, which, whilst watchable, is bizarrely messy and it feels like Foxx & Farrell are miscast, although their characters are also badly written, so it’s hard to tell. Public Enemies is, also, really underwhelming. However, Blackhat with Chris Hemsworth is what kills his career.

    Sean Penn pretty much gives up after 2011 and, even then, his last particularly great performance was in 2008. The strangrest part is that it’s not impossible for to comeback. And it wasn’t off the cards for him to have a great decade in the 2010s. He was originally going to play the Norton part in Birdman, and the Hardy part in The Revenant. This is, perhaps, not terribly surprising, though, as Penn has turned down a lot of great roles over the years…

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    Catherine Zeta Jones… Don’t remember her in anything important after her Oscar.

    Halle Berry the same. Seems like she has a movie out this year that people are hopeful about but her career really derailed after the Oscar.

    Michelle Pfeiffer, Sharon Stone, Kim Basinger… All actresses that are never in big movies anymore.

    Sean Young is another one who’s disappeared completely because of her attitude. Same goes for Debra Winger.
    Then you have actresses like Thora Birch, Mena Suvari, Neve Campbell and so on who are basically forgotten now, despite being in very successful movies in the 90s.

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    In the wake of the big Reminiscence flop:

    Hugh Jackman after 2017 [49 years old].
    That year for him was a big one, a one two punch of big commercial successes like Logan and The Greatest Showman.

    After that, flops after flops.
    I hope he rebounds a bit, at least on a critical level, with the upcoming The Son next year.

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    Whilst his career didn’t exactly go off the rails, there has been an alteration in the star of Tom Cruise…. Roughly around Collateral/War Of The Worlds, he does the “Couch Incident” and, from that point onwards he doesn’t work with an “auteur director” again… Rumours says he was tempted with Tarantino, but, more likely, those kinds of directors stopped casting Tom Cruise at that point because of the bad PR and, maybe, because he wanted to be just a movie star, instead of the great actor he was in the 90s and early 2000s. Matthew McConaughey’s career pretty much crashes and burns post-Interstellar. I think, in a way, too many good things happened for him at once and he, more or less, peaks with the back-to-back of an Oscar win, one of the most well-regarded TV performances in recent memory and the lead part in a Nolan (also at his peak) film, which was somewhat prestigious, at this point, due to his last few leads including Christian Bale and Leonardo DiCaprio. It doesn’t help he didn’t star in any particularly well-regarded films, at this point. I will say for him, though, that he is sort of making a subtle comeback with The Beach Bum and The Gentlemen – films more or less destined to become cult favourites, due to their director’s backcatalogues and their reception. The decline in Jim Carrey’s career starts with Series Of Unfortunate Events, but it doesn’t really come to ahead, until I Love You, Phillip Morris – where it becomes clear he can’t sell a film by his mere presence, although I wouldn’t be surprised if part of the reason for that film’s lack of success was homophobia in regards to mainstream films at the time. His career, then, proceeds to completely collapse from 2011-14, with a series of diminishing returns and genuinely abysmal comedies. It, also, seems like he wanted to take time off from mainstream Hollywood films, but idk. However, he seems to be making a comeback with Sonic The Hedgehog. Johnny Depp’s career starts to decline on a critical level post-Sweeney Todd, but his run from The Rum Diary onwards (incl. such masterpieces as Mortedcai, Transcendence and Dark Shadows….) is when audiences lost interest. For directors, Michael Mann starts to flounder with Ali, which is probably the biggest cinematic disappointment of the 21st century. In theory, it should have been the kind of masterpiece that sweeps the Oscars and deserves it. Instead you have an incredibly dull biopic told in an incredibly unengaging way. Collateral, also, signalled a mild-decline. It’s a great film, but it’s a lot more lowkey than his 90s efforts. But, as others have stated, the problems fully arise with Miami Vice, which, whilst watchable, is bizarrely messy and it feels like Foxx & Farrell are miscast, although their characters are also badly written, so it’s hard to tell. Public Enemies is, also, really underwhelming. However, Blackhat with Chris Hemsworth is what kills his career. Sean Penn pretty much gives up after 2011 and, even then, his last particularly great performance was in 2008. The strangrest part is that it’s not impossible for to comeback. And it wasn’t off the cards for him to have a great decade in the 2010s. He was originally going to play the Norton part in Birdman, and the Hardy part in The Revenant. This is, perhaps, not terribly surprising, though, as Penn has turned down a lot of great roles over the years…

    I think Penn was too old for those roles. Penn with Emma Stone? He looks too old to be love interest or Manly man(Tom Hardy

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    In the wake of the big Reminiscence flop: Hugh Jackman after 2017 [49 years old]. That year for him was a big one, a one two punch of big commercial successes like Logan and The Greatest Showman. After that, flops after flops. I hope he rebounds a bit, at least on a critical level, with the upcoming The Son next year.

    I think TGS huge box office was because Zac Efron. I remember All Millenials excited for Zac Efron in a big Musical(nostalgia for 3 HSM

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    I think Penn was too old for those roles. Penn with Emma Stone? He looks too old to be love interest or Manly man(Tom Hardy

    About Michael Mann. He is One of My Favorites Of All Time. However, he is infamous to be very difficult to work with. So, that killed his career. Still, he was making something for HBO MAX

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    Zack Snyder. He is making movies for NETFLIX but it seems his career is slowly dying. BATMAN V SUPERMAN killed his prime. Another very similar case is Michael Bay. TRANSFORMERS 5 killed Michael Bays prime

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    All Millenials excited for Zac Efron in a big Musical(nostalgia for 3 HSM

    This. I remember nearly every junket for TGS mentioned how it’d been 10 years since not only HSM wrapped but the theatrical release of Hairspray.

    Speaking of Efron, he is also someone whose had a mini-slump post-TGS.

    2019: Shockingly Vile, Wickedly Evil and Gross (the Ted Bundy movie, more discussed than seen, buried by Netflix, probably could’ve got a Globe if played right)
    2019: The Beach Bum (cult favourite but nobody’s favourite part)
    2020: Scoob! (does this even exist)
    2020: becomes a tabloid target due to rumours of face alteration.

    He did win a Daytime Emmy for his Netflix survival show and his next film projects are a Blumhouse thriller and Peter Farrelly’s followup to Green Book so his mini-decline probably won’t last long.

    Oscars FYC:

    "CODA" – in all categories

    "Everybody's Talking About Jamie" – Sup. Actor (Richard E. Grant), Sup. Actress (Sarah Lancashire) and Original Song (“This Was Me”)

    "King Richard" – Original Song (“Be Alive”)

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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    This. I remember nearly every junket for TGS mentioned how it’d been 10 years since not only HSM wrapped but the theatrical release of Hairspray. Speaking of Efron, he is also someone whose had a mini-slump post-TGS. 2019: Shockingly Vile, Wickedly Evil and Gross (the Ted Bundy movie, more discussed than seen, buried by Netflix, probably could’ve got a Globe if played right) 2019: The Beach Bum (cult favourite but nobody’s favourite part) 2020: Scoob! (does this even exist) 2020: becomes a tabloid target due to rumours of face alteration. He did win a Daytime Emmy for his Netflix survival show and his next film projects are a Blumhouse thriller and Peter Farrelly’s followup to Green Book so his mini-decline probably won’t last long.

    It’s interesting all the worldwide debates about his face. Funny and sad at the same time. I think he got a lot more muscular so his face looks bloated these days. He was very thin as teenager so it seems people still remember that skinny face. But he had a bloated face in Baywatch and that rom com when he played a Marine. It seems every time he is very, very muscular: his face looks bloated

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