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    If  the movie is 2 hours she got like maybe 30 minutes of screen time

    Pretty sure that’s a sneaky trick of the movie because there are whole parts she says nothing. I tried calculating the screentime for each character but I’ve only gotten just past the first hour and all 4 have a LOT of screentime.

    Everyone seems to watch a different film here. It’s so funny. There are people who never read the book arguing Dunst is not supporting at all. Others say Kodi is lead. I can see each of these interpretations.

    P.S.: you’ll miss 40% of the subtlety of this film if you watch the pirated version so don’t but I’m loving discussing it with people in DMs and I love the different interpretations!!!

    @crabbie DM me if you wanna discuss 😀

    But seriously — please wait till you can see the real thing!!

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    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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    Everyone seems to watch a different film here. It’s so funny. There are people who never read the book arguing Dunst is not supporting at all. Others say Kodi is lead. I can see each of these interpretations.

    Dunst came to my mind as soon as I finished the watch. Awards aside, Dunst plays one of the most pivotal roles to the film’s structure—it’s difficult to imagine the audience would forget about her so it is unlikely. Dunst and Cumerbatch all have crucial scenes individually and together so much so I found them to be evoking distinct areas in the moral compass of the film. This one scene they had together was unsettling to the core and left me anxious for how sinister the conflict will unfold for the other characters.

    Michelle Williams Oscar campaign manager.

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    Dunst came to my mind as soon as I finished the watch. Awards aside, Dunst plays one of the most pivotal roles to the film’s structure—it’s difficult to imagine the audience would forget about her so it is unlikely. Dunst and Cumerbatch all have crucial scenes individually and together so much so I found them to be evoking distinct areas in the moral compass of the film. This one scene they had together was unsettling to the core and left me anxious for how sinister the conflict will unfold for the other characters.

    Yeah this is how I see it. Without spoilers, from the moment we meet Rose, she subtly and slowly starts becoming the other “pole” of the film. Peter and George are either with her or with Phil. I think Dunst’s arc has been reduced enough to say she’s supporting but interestingly I think most elements of her character in the book are played subtly played regardless.

    This is also true of Phil. We get to know a lot more details about him in the book but this is the challenge of adaptations ofc. And Benedict does play those elements brilliantly. The main one is: Phil is a RAGING racist against Native Americans which is present throughout so in a way I think it was a brilliant move to do it the way it was done (though I have a criticism of Campion there for the whole film). Benny is playing multiple interpretations too, but we do more or less get everything about Phil — the rest need more thought I think.

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    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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    Benny is playing multiple interpretations too, but we do more or less get everything about Phil — the rest need more thought I think.

    Cumerbatch was utterly fantastic in the film and I say this as someone who did not care for his The Imitation Game performance. He doesn’t play a caricature that could have easily been the case for a more inexperienced actor. I heavily disagree with him being miscast and it’s Cumberbatch’s lack of overt masculinity (someone like Fassbender or McConaughey has extreme masculine energy when playing characters but Cumberbatch tends to play more tender roles) that plays in Phil’s psyche. So much vulnerability is in his performance when he lets his guard down or becomes introspective of himself. Such a captivating performance.

    Cumerbatch is critically acclaimed but I suppose the acclaim could have more dominant had the film been a one man show similar to Phoenix and Oldman. Cumberbatch IS getting raves though that’s a fact, but not nearly to the extent as those mentioned. He is very much win-competitive but if the film was structured as a one man show, Cumberbatch would sweep.

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    TIFF digital screenings :/ The Guilty has also leaked.

     

    yep heard about that leaking as well 🙁 it really sucks that people disresecpt the filmmakers even though they took the opportunity to make it available for as many as possible via digital

    FYC: Kristen Stewart (Spencer)

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    I respect Jane Campion too much. I’m trying to wait, even though I don’t know if TPOTD will have a theatrical release in Europe. Also, I’ve read the book so I’m not worried about spoilers. 😊

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    Just finished watching the movie. Wow. Really loved it but I really need to think about it for a while. Need to rest a bit on it. It’s a lot to take in. One thing I can say is, I didn’t find this inaccessible at all but it is quite slow. Wasn’t bored at all tho. It passed by very nicely for me. Regarding the performances, Dunst and Cumberbatch definitely the standouts. Smit-McPhee was very good too but I wasn’t blown away like some critics were. Plemons did well but (sadly) he didn’t have much to do. Jane’s directing, the score and cinematography, were immaculate and deserve all the recognition. I did have some issues with the writing and it was definitely the weakest link. I feel like the characters could’ve been better written and the structure a bit better. But like I said, I loved it and it matched my expectations. Hopefully it’ll do very well during this upcoming awards season.

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    Just finished watching the movie. Wow. Really loved it but I really need to think about it for a while. Need to rest a bit on it. It’s a lot to take in. One thing I can say is, I didn’t find this inaccessible at all but it is quite slow. Wasn’t bored at all tho. It passed by very nicely for me. Regarding the performances, Dunst and Cumberbatch definitely the standouts. Smit-McPhee was very good too but I wasn’t blown away like some critics were. Plemons did well but (sadly) he didn’t have much to do. Jane’s directing, the score and cinematography, were immaculate and deserve all the recognition. I did have some issues with the writing and it was definitely the weakest link. I feel like the characters could’ve been better written and the structure a bit better. But like I said, I loved it and it matched my expectations. Hopefully it’ll do very well during this upcoming awards season.

    This is EXACTLY how I feel. I swear you are on the exact same page as me! Kaziz is that not my exact take LOL? Besides the writing, I quite enjoyed the script, but yeah this is exactly what I said almost.

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    I think we can all agree the writing of the ending of the film was mind-blowing.

    Michelle Williams Oscar campaign manager.

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    This is EXACTLY how I feel. I swear you are on the exact same page as me! Kaziz is that not my exact take LOL? Besides the writing, I quite enjoyed the script, but yeah this is exactly what I said almost.

    Lol I dunno why you guys are so down on Smit-McPhee & Plemons. They were both fantastic! Those aren’t easy parts lol. Mileage varies I guess, but also just trust me: when I find out things I’ve missed and think about them or talk about the smallest details with people, it’s NUTS how much I learn. It’s all soooooo purposeful, the tiniest scene means something.

    FYC:
    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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    I genuinely think this film is SO full of interpretive possibilities, every actor is playing multiple things at once. If you didn’t like Plemons, I posted this in Supporting Actor thread too, only for those who’ve seen the film.

    For those who’ve seen the film, I read a freaking AMAZING interpretation of George (Plemons) in an LB review that you just have to read. It feels so right but I’m not putting this here to comment on his awards chances, mostly just that I love how TPOTD supports so many fucking interpretations! This person hasn’t read the book + I’d never totally thought about it that way despite having read the book so I just love it.

    FYC:
    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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    I did have some issues with the writing and it was definitely the weakest link. I feel like the characters could’ve been better written and the structure a bit better.

    I think because I’ve read the book obviously, I can be a bit nitpick about this. There’s ONE thing that I heavily disagree with regarding the script, HEAVILY disagree, Campion made a mistake there.

    Other than that, a lot of what people have complained about regarding the writing is just…..that’s what the book was as well. And it’s like that for fairly specific reasons actually. Like…George & Rose “falling in love”. That’s in scare-quotes for a reason, and actually you might be surprised to know that in the book that happens exactly the same: it just happens off-the-page, and we find out about it after it’s done. I think Campion actually improved on that a little by introducing her chapter structure and then it’s obvious some time has passed between chapters. I don’t think it’s the BEST adaptation—I do think it’s pretty freaking good. Just because…..she understood the characters fully, and the rewatches will reward you SO MUCH (@crabbie and I have discussed SO many hidden things lol, I would’ve missed them if I didn’t talk about it with people, so that’s SUPER fun!). So much of it is non-verbal that more burden fell on the ACTORS to read the book, because….what’s the screenplay gonna say lol. And I saw that, I saw every single one of them playing to something that was subtextual and they wouldn’t have known if they hadn’t read the book over and over and over.

    I wouldn’t give this Best Adapted Screenplay! Deffff more of a directing (and casting!) achievement. I’m guessing Rebecca Hall & Maggie Gyllenhaal did much better jobs because those books are also low on dialogue. In all, this is probably the point of yours I agree with the most, but it was still solid enough to be nominated, for sure.

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    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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    I respect Jane Campion too much. I’m trying to wait, even though I don’t know if TPOTD will have a theatrical release in Europe. Also, I’ve read the book so I’m not worried about spoilers. 😊

    I feel like my enthusiasm is driving even more people to watch the leak and you really shouldn’t do that, the leak kinda….sucks. The sound quality and the visual quality seems good but it’s nowhere near on par with the real deal 🙁

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    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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    I keep thinking about this film after watching it. All of the little details and foreshadowing. It’s so amazing really. The best discussions are made when engaging with the toxic masculinity discourse that all of the characters are affected by. I’m finding out all of these different toxic masculinity consequences for all of the characters and it’s quite amazing. The Letterboxd review Kaziz linked is quite insightful in analyzing toxic masculinity in a character that’s believed to be quite pure by others. But lately I have been thinking about how Peter’s innate traits and past experiences shape the masculinity that transforms throughout the film. Peter is possibly my favorite character that lingers with me after the film. Rose and Phill are still complex and tragic characters—but there is something so fascinating about Peter that the more I learn about his psyche, the more I get appalled by his nature since these people exist in our real lives.

    Michelle Williams Oscar campaign manager.

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    Rose 100% my fave character, but it’s vvvvv close.

    I honestly think there were some scenes where Kodi > Cumberbatch hehe

    But that’s also bc he was meant to be—Cumberbatch handed it off to him generously. Plemons was by far the most generous, but yeah there was this awesome rapport, I can’t help but think they’re all wonderful.

    FYC:
    Picture: The Power of the Dog, Passing, The Lost Daughter
    Director: Jane Campion, Rebecca Hall
    Actor: Benedict Cumberbatch
    Actress: Tessa Thompson, Olivia Colman
    Supporting Actress: Kirsten Dunst, Ruth Negga, Dakota Johnson, Jessie Buckley
    Supporting Actor: Kodi Smit-McPhee, Jesse Plemons

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