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    Classic case of more respect than passion

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    If CODA had been discovered earlier, who else would’ve been nominated?

    probably marlee matlin.

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    Eh I like that it didn’t win… I even said that here a few days ago, it will age better if it loses.

    Netflix needs to stop with the aggressive campaigning and they need more “heartwarming” movies if they want to win. Their movies being so accessible for everyone to watch also makes a lot people watch something that they would’ve never watched in theathers and then they end up not liking it.

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    As you can see in those anonymous Oscar ballots people are fickle.. “I’m not voting for Campion after that speech”, “Nexflix campaign has been too in your face”. It’s all quite shallow and based on a range of quite superficial things.

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    I still don’t think it’s worth extrapolating what happens. Things change from year to year.

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    if CODA had been seen earlier, it could’ve taken slots in Best Actress, Best Supporting Actress, Best Director, Best Original Song, and Best Film Editing. Especially considering how fractured Actress and Film Editing ended up being with wins and noms.

    • Jones replaces Cruz or Stewart
    • Matlin replaces Dench
    • Heder replaces Hamaguchi or PTA
    • Beyond The Shore replaces Warren or Morrison
    • replaces tick, tick…BOOM! or hell, even The Power of the Dog in film editing

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    !! EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE ALL AT ONCE - OUT NOW !!

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    - Severance
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    I was hoping Power of the Dog wouldn’t sweep tonight & Im so happy it didn’t.

    It was an alright movie. I love a slow burn, Westerns are alright in my book, & the cast is fantastic. But I feel like it didn’t tell anything. It didn’t leave me with any lasting impressions. I did understand it and thought the ending was interesting but it didn’t feel like it paid off and felt satisfactory.

     

    CODA made me feel something. I laughed, smiled, cried (a lot). While the cinematography was intensely lacking, the sweetness of the story and the incredible performances by near nobodies far surpassed TPOTD’s all-star cast.

    It was feel-good and wonderful. I think if they spent extra time making the cinematography something noticeably good (rather than average TV movie-esque ) I think it would’ve been undoubtedly the best of the bunch.

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    CODA was safe and palatable – basically award show mediocrity catnip. We’ve seen how fickle voters are. They don’t put in much thought in their votes. And CODA surged at the right time.

    It’s important to remember that CODA is an exception, not a trend. It had multiple things working for it at the right time which ultimately gave it the edge.

    That being said, TPOTD is an excellent movie but it’s long, drawn out, divisive and not to everyone’s tastes. Netflix’s campaigning was just fine.

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    I can think of a few reasons but I don’t feel like being chased by angry pitch-fork torch carrying villagers up the hill and into a lighthouse.

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    Nothing “went wrong” by a certain film not winning the top Oscar.

    The sum total of voters liked another film more at the moment they voted. That’s it. No, really, y’all. That’s all that this is. This board is so damn overloaded with bipolar drama: “Love or Loathe?” Do you have “momentum and passion” or are you “crashing and underperforming!?”

    Coming in 2nd or 3rd out of the number of people choosing you as best of the year is not a rejection, it is a success. TPOTD is not disliked nor divisive, because no movie that gets a plurality of votes in a big Oscar category and nominations across the board CAN be. No one made a few thousand people vote for Jane Campion under threat of injury. They voted for her because they loved the film. The movie didn’t “lack passion, because by definition each nomination requires you to have a large chunk of #1 votes to get in.

    It’s just slightly more people voted for CODA. Not because they’re basic or stupid or fell for a sneaky campaign. They loved the movie, more than others that they also liked a lot, and voted accordingly.

    I don’t understand this particular choice, but the idea that there is only one film a year you are allowed to love, let alone one film that is destined to be #1 or else it failed… oy.

    That said, Netflix pissed people off.

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    I can think of a few reasons but I don’t feel like being chased by angry pitch-fork torch carrying villagers up the hill and into a lighthouse.

    You seem scared, pook. I’m here to tell you it’s going to be okay.

    I’m here to remind you that no matter what invective someone throws at you or me or anyone here over a supposed breaching of good taste, that it has no effect on your life at all. Almost nothing anyone gets mad at on the internet actually has any effect on anything, at all. Like, it’s just black letters on a shiny flat object, created by people who currently have way too much time on their hands. They can’t actually find you and claim your life based on thinking Green Book or Vice actually had something to say. This place is a void we somehow enter willingly for reasons I have yet to fully suss out.

    Good, I knew you knew. Just double checking.

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    I mean if we are talking about TPOD not leaving a lasting impression neither was CODA to me. Drive My Car is the only nominee this year (I haven’t seen Nightmare Alley, King Richard, Don’t Look Up) that leaves a lasting impression to me.

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    You seem scared, pook. I’m here to tell you it’s going to be okay.

    I’m here to remind you that no matter what invective someone throws at you or me or anyone here over a supposed breaching of good taste, that it has no effect on your life at all. Almost nothing anyone gets mad at on the internet actually has any effect on anything, at all. Like, it’s just black letters on a shiny flat object, created by people who currently have way too much time on their hands. They can’t actually find you and claim your life based on thinking Green Book or Vice actually had something to say. This place is a void we somehow enter willingly for reasons I have yet to fully suss out.

    Good, I knew you knew. Just double checking.

    This is the sweetest note I’ve read here in a while. Thank you. And no I’m not scared nor intimidated. Lol!
    I joined this site in 2002. Not 2010. There are several cliques here who are civil, welcoming, and literate. But there are also gangs. Quite a different thing.

    What I was going to say is that, one reason may be that voters have been surrounded by family and friends who are sickening stans of DOG and wouldn’t SHUT UP, yabbabbadoo while snidely trashing other people’s preferences and favorites.
    And yes I DO think Greenbook had something great to say lest we forget the Jim Crow Era. That film won several POC awards and was produced in part by Octavia Spenser. The last tome i checked she’s a gem, And it was easy seeing it’s win coming because I took a break from the site. Imagine being a fan of that film and being here..

    I do believe that the “for gawds sake STFU” was a factor.

    Lol. So there it is. And thanks again.

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    Overly aggressive Netflix campaign was a large part of the backslide, I think. 12 Oscar nominations indicate some type of love/admiration at one point, at least, just not at the home stretch where it counted the most.

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    If CODA had been discovered earlier, who else would’ve been nominated?

    Actually only Original Song.

    Coen-Lynch-Fellini

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