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    Jason Travis
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    Has anyone seen In the Absence?

    Description (from Academy’s website): When the MV Sewol ferry sank off the coast of South Korea in 2014, over three hundred people lost their lives, most of them schoolchildren. Years later, the victims’ families and survivors are still demanding justice from national authorities.

    I remember reading about this when it happened and being utterly devastated by it. Everyone has Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (including myself), but I am tempted to switch to In the Absence simply because it seems more voters would be able to warm up to it’s enticing story – and tragedy that is still be investigated.

    Also I know this isn’t part of the shorts, but Sasha recently switched to Honeyland in Documentary, as did a few others in the Top 24. I originally had American Factory for the Obama angle, but it’s just their production company. For Sama won the BAFTA over American Factory and seems to have the more powerful story. Honeyland, too, seems more personal. It also helps the latter is nominated for Foreign Language Film- perhaps more broad support? Anyone have insights?

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    Has anyone seen In the Absence? Description (from Academy’s website): When the MV Sewol ferry sank off the coast of South Korea in 2014, over three hundred people lost their lives, most of them schoolchildren. Years later, the victims’ families and survivors are still demanding justice from national authorities. I remember reading about this when it happened and being utterly devastated by it. Everyone has Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (including myself), but I am tempted to switch to In the Absence simply because it seems more voters would be able to warm up to it’s enticing story – and tragedy that is still be investigated. Also I know this isn’t part of the shorts, but Sasha recently switched to Honeyland in Documentary, as did a few others in the Top 24. I originally had American Factory for the Obama angle, but it’s just their production company. For Sama won the BAFTA over American Factory and seems to have the more powerful story. Honeyland, too, seems more personal. It also helps the latter is nominated for Foreign Language Film- perhaps more broad support? Anyone have insights?

     

    I keep switching back and forth between “In the Absence” and “Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone” — it seems like people who actually watched all of them prefer “In the Absence,” but based on the title alone/ name check situation, people might just choose “Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone.”

    As for Documentary Feature, I actually wonder if “Honeyland”‘s double nomination kind of hurts its chances. Obviously “Parasite” is a lock for International, but if voters really love “Honeyland” they could split the vote between categories. I think I am sticking with “American Factory” not because it is necessarily the best but because it is so accessible to voters via Netflix as well as because it is in English which I (unfortunately) think helps its chances.

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    I keep switching back and forth between “In the Absence” and “Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone” — it seems like people who actually watched all of them prefer “In the Absence,” but based on the title alone/ name check situation, people might just choose “Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone.”

    Doesn’t the Academy have special rules for the short categories that requires voters to have seen all the nominees? I don’t know how the Academy verifies it, but if so, and the voters see all the short films, I think “In the Absence” could win it. It’s very powerful!

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    Doesn’t the Academy have special rules for the short categories that requires voters to have seen all the nominees? I don’t know how the Academy verifies it, but if so, and the voters see all the short films, I think “In the Absence” could win it. It’s very powerful!

    You’re right that is a rule, but I am not sure if there is an actual way for them to enforce this or if they attempt to? Does anyone know?

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    Has anyone seen In the Absence?

    Description (from Academy’s website): When the MV Sewol ferry sank off the coast of South Korea in 2014, over three hundred people lost their lives, most of them schoolchildren. Years later, the victims’ families and survivors are still demanding justice from national authorities.

    I remember reading about this when it happened and being utterly devastated by it. Everyone has Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (including myself), but I am tempted to switch to In the Absence simply because it seems more voters would be able to warm up to it’s enticing story – and tragedy that is still be investigated.

    Also I know this isn’t part of the shorts, but Sasha recently switched to Honeyland in Documentary, as did a few others in the Top 24. I originally had American Factory for the Obama angle, but it’s just their production company. For Sama won the BAFTA over American Factory and seems to have the more powerful story. Honeyland, too, seems more personal. It also helps the latter is nominated for Foreign Language Film- perhaps more broad support? Anyone have insights?

    I saw in the absence and predicted it for a nom at 100/1 and even told others here to predict it for a nom. But I dont think it has a chance of winning. It is way too depressing.

    AMERICAN factory was never going to win BAFTA from the most nominated documentary of all time at BAFTA.

    As for Honeyland, meh. I guess it could happen but I dont see any reason to predict it over Factory.

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    Having now seen the Live Action Shorts, I think its clear that Brotherhood’s odds are WAY overstated for being listed alphabetically. There is LITERALLY NO WAY that wins. It lacks an engaging title (which we know helps) and content wise it’s very slow and emotionally way less impactful than its competition.

    Neighbours Window felt like the conventional winner of the bunch, assuming people watched them. If you think namecheckers factor in I actually think Nefta Football Club is your dark horse.

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    Has anyone been able to find the animated short Mémorable with English subtitles online?

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    Has anyone been able to find the animated short Mémorable with English subtitles online?

    It’s on Vimeo. Honestly the best in the category

    https://vimeo.com/325835165/dec4c9a9ae/

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    Hi there !

    Here is the link to several of the short films in nomination, In The Absence included.

    https://www.shortoftheweek.com/news/oscar-short-subject-nominees-2020/

    Look into the comments onthat page as well. There are other links.

     

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    I watched In The Absence without knowing what it was about and it took me by surprise and really moved me. The incompetence and corruption depicted are revolting.  My favorite short doc.

    Mind you I got to watch only 2.

     

    For the animated short, I prefere Mémorable because of the creative way they showed how the man was losing his reference and could not recognize people, concepts or objetcs.

    Sister had an unexpected ending and was touching.

    For the live-ation, I never got to watch Saria. Anybody has a link ?

    The other 4 were good. I’d choose Nefta Football Club because it was thightly plotted and the punch was funny.

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    I watched In The Absence without knowing what it was about and it took me by surprise and really moved me. The incompetence and corruption depicted are revolting. My favorite short doc.

    Mind you I got to watch only 2.

    For the animated short, I prefere Mémorable because of the creative way they showed how the man was losing his reference and could not recognize people, concepts or objetcs.

    Sister had an unexpected ending and was touching.

    For the live-ation, I never got to watch Saria. Anybody has a link ?

    The other 4 were good. I’d choose Nefta Football Club because it was thightly plotted and the punch was funny.

    Saria is available for download, they took out the google drive link

    Here there’s links for all the nominees
    http://expertplay.net/forum/topic/363453-download-torrent-dos-filmes-indicados-ao-oscar-2020/

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    It’s on Vimeo. Honestly the best in the category

    https://vimeo.com/325835165/dec4c9a9ae/

    Thanks, you’re a star.

    I agree Mémorable is by far the best, shame it won’t win just like World of Tomorrow and Weekends before it.

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    Well, finally saw the Live Action Shorts collection and the incredible revelation is that none of the shorts suck (something I haven’t been able to say in this category in ages). They’re not all great, but they’re all pretty good (if far from the best shorts of the past year).

    That said, I thought NEIGHBORS was touching but too schematic, FOOTBALL little more than a shaggy dog story, A SISTER too familiar on themes from other recent live action short nominees (all of which were better) and SARIA has some excellent moments but in the end is too hogtied to its “Based-on-a-true-story” resolution.

    That leaves BROTHERHOOD, which really does give its characters a chance to breathe and its tensions unfold gradually while also allowing a more meditative look at the life around the family. Also, the finale may be downbeat, but its rooted in a character’s failings rather than something more systemic or institutional. In short, we hold responsibility for the world we create and the weight of this realization is the most poignant moment in any of the films.

    Usually, it’s a plus to have humor, kids, English, or something upbeat–which would disqualify BROTHERHOOD on all counts–but I still think it’s the best of the bunch. But at least there isn’t any that I would consider a disaster if it won (unlike last year, which was a fairly hoary and horrendous mix across the board).

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    Well, not surprising at all that the doc shorts are uniformly strong and the Oscar to any one wouldn’t ben a grave injustice, though my personal preferences are:

    1. Learning to Skateboard in a Warzone (if You’re a Girl)
    2. St. Louis Superman
    3. Life Overtakes Me
    4. In the Absence
    5. Walk Run Cha-Cha

    And if last year’s winner PERIOD. END OF SENTENCE taught us anything, it’s that uplifting tales of women fighting patriarchal societies in a way that emphasizes courage and imagination (and not just oppression) has real traction with the voters, especially if it’s leavened with a good dose of humor. SKATEBOARD nails all those points (while still being incredibly moving) so I can easily see that winning. It’s a crowd-pleaser in the best sense of the term: A solid message but entertaining without ever pandering.

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