December 25, 2014 at 5:16 am #170049
Since both ToE and TIG are both period pieces about two British whizzes starring highly-esteemed young British thesps, I am getting the sense that they might end up being cast under each others shadow the way American Hustle and Wolf of Wall Street were last year. ToE and TIG are likely to get nominated, but because of their striking similarities, it might be a question of whether they can win, imo.
What do you guys think?December 25, 2014 at 6:52 am #170051
I don’t think that’s even what happened with AH or WOWS last year.December 25, 2014 at 11:46 am #170052
Neither will match the American Hustle nomination total, but I could imagine Imitation Game getting a bunch of nominations without winning anything. It’s best shot is probably in Adapted Screenplay though.
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American Hustle got a total of 10 nominations but won absolutely nothing: it was arguably a great film (I got my problems with its pacing) but it simply wasn’t the best (no pun intended) in any of the categories it was nominated. It had nothing to do with The Wolf of Wall Street, the polarizing dark horse of the year with no great shots at anything other than Lead Actor. Too controversial of a film. It went places American Hustle could go but didn’t have the guts to.
Neither ToE nor TIG are even remotely similar to American Hustle or TWoWS and I don’t think they’re cancelling each other out. If that didn’t happen in the most obvious category (Lead Actor) then it won’t happen in any other.December 26, 2014 at 7:02 am #170054
They won’t cancel each other out in Adapted Screenplay, as I think Imitation Game has a much better shot at winning there than TofE. Likewise Best Picture, although I don’t see Game as another King’s Speech. It seems like Redmayne’s performance is drawing slightly more passion than Cumberbatch’s, so even if neither of them win I don’t think it’ll be due to their cancelling each other out.December 31, 2014 at 1:37 pm #170055
I don’t think either one will get a director’s nomination.December 31, 2014 at 1:48 pm #170056
In the sense that they are two films that are both probably going to do very well with nominations and have a lot of support, but potentially not win anything because they end up 2nd or 3rd in multiple categories but not number 1 in any, than yes. But I don’t really think it will be because they’re overshadowing each other. The categories they each have the best chance in are different so they shouldn’t affect each other that much. TOE has the best chance in Adapted Screenplay while TOE is more for Best Actor.January 1, 2015 at 1:22 pm #170057
No man. You need to realize that most of the “variables” that the supposed experts, including the ones on this site, have very little to do with what actually happens.
For example, I believe it was Tom O’Neill last year that insisted Leo would win an Oscar because he was due. Sure, there may be the odd voter who votes that way, but it isn’t how most of the academy works. There are hundreds to thousands of votes here, the anomalies get weeded out. If either of the films you mentioned were actually the best out there, then they would get more votes. I think Imitation Game will get a nomination, and maybe ToE as well, but Boyhood’s winning best picture, and then Birdman and Selma would rank 2 and 3. They don’t cancel each other out.January 1, 2015 at 1:46 pm #170058
In the sense that they are two films that are both probably going to do very well with nominations and have a lot of support, but potentially not win anything because they end up 2nd or 3rd in multiple categories but not number 1 in any, than yes. But I don’t really think it will be because they’re overshadowing each other. The categories they each have the best chance in are different so they shouldn’t affect each other that much. TOE has the best chance in Adapted Screenplay while TOE is more for Best Actor.
I still don’t understand why people are ignoring Benedict Cumberbatch like he has no chance. I guess we’ll just act surprised when he wins the Drama Globe and BAFTA.
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