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    Diana Ross’ performance didn’t even try to mimic Billie Holliday at all (and she had a unique way of speaking and talking.)

    After I saw Audra McDonald play Holliday I felt less positive about what Ross did with the role.

    And I agree Blanchett was enjoyable in The Aviator. She was due an Oscar and there really wasn’t anyone else in the category who was extra deserving so give it to Cate. (I never got the whole appeal of Virginia Madsen’s wine speech in Sideways that people raved about.)

    Diana Ross gave a very good performance in Lady Sings the Blues. I think that she lost due to what was perceived as an over aggressive campaign by Berry Gordy and due to Cicely Tyson being in the category. Cicely Tyson should have been nominated in the Supporting Actress category for Sounder and she would have won. Liza Minelli herself said that Diana Ross was the one to watch in this category. I have watched Cabaret twice and I do not get the appeal about this movie. Sorry about it.

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    RobertPius
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    Don’t get me wrong I thought Ross was great but as I said after I saw how Audra McDonald totally nailed Holliday’s singing and speaking style it seemed odd that Ross didn’t attempt more of an impression. I guess it was her first film.

    As for Cabaret it was very popular with the Academy so Liza probably won easily. Bob Fosse even won Best Director over Francis Ford Coppola for The Godfather and back then they rarely split Picture and Director. I don’t know what the theories were as to why Fosse won and Coppola lost.

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    I could easily see why Liza won. The film was more polished. She was great in Cabaret too. The fact that some did not like Diana played a role too. The woman has sung in more hits than any other female, but does not have a single Grammy.

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    M Bocioaca
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    You should watch Bekindrewind’s analysis of why Liza won. It’s on yt.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    I cannot stand when people always assume someone that is Black is nominated for that reason only. It is very disrespectful and racist.

    Preach! It makes me so angry, I hope that this opinion is not unpopular. I really hate when someone tries to validate his opinion with assumptions, for example, I just read a comment ¨assuring¨that Weisz beat Stone at the British Independent Film Awards only because she is British…

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    The Oscars for Best Acting should be awarded not as a meritocracy of impressions, mannerisms or the like. The actors should look to immerse themselves without having looked like they just studied old tapes. Infuse some emotion! Make the workings of your internal world apparent by how you recreate the character’s motivations! Emote! Do all that jazz, but please, show some heart and effort in your work. It’s bothersome to say the least that the Academy is so easily sucked in by such mediocre performances.

    A perfect example of delusions. It is okay to dislike Oldman and Lewis performances, but to state as a fact that the Academy is ¨so easily sucked in by such mediocre performances¨ is very ridiculous.

    Both Oldman and Lewis immerse themselves completely in both roles, this is what the vast majority of critics, fans, cinephiles and industry members think. What people like you cannot understand is that Lincoln was portrayed in that silent and calm way on purpose, the truth is that no once could have said that this is DDL if we have not read his name on the credits, this is what I called immersion. And Oldman did a perfect Churchill, he was like this, some roles cannot be done in a subtle way, I do not know why is so difficult to understand for some people. And this is coming from someone who thinks that Chalamet should have won last year and that John Lithgow gave a much better and complex performance as Churchill in The Crown, but to say that Oldman was just make-up and mannerism is very ignorant.

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    Jazzy
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    Diana Ross gave a very good performance in Lady Sings the Blues. I think that she lost due to what was perceived as an over aggressive campaign by Berry Gordy and due to Cicely Tyson being in the category. Cicely Tyson should have been nominated in the Supporting Actress category for Sounder and she would have won. Liza Minelli herself said that Diana Ross was the one to watch in this category. I have watched Cabaret twice and I do not get the appeal about this movie. Sorry about it.

    I thought Diana was fantastic but yes, as others have said, she did not embody Billie Holliday. And yes, Cabaret was mostly overrated nonsense. It was visually stunning and quirky, but there was nothing memorable about the acting. Even worse than Liza’s win was Joel Grey’s win for Best Supporting Actor.

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    Honey
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    Julianne Moore wasn’t snubbed a win for Far From Heaven. Diane Lane – Unfaithful, was

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    Jazzy
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    Neither was Julie Christie.

    1997 was one of the strangest years for Best Actress because I don’t think any of the 5 nominees particularly deserved to win. From that group I’d give the Oscar to Judi Dench.

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    Jazzy
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    Glenn Close should’ve won in 2012 for Albert Nobbs. Why the critics did not back her up and instead chose to support Meryl Streep is beyond me. Close did amazingly with what she had to work with. And she looked the part (a woman living as a man) considering that Close has a naturally mannish face. I suppose that the Academy’s belief that Streep was “overdue” for a 3rd Oscar combined with the campaigning techniques of the Weinstein company was what gave Streep the win. The whole notion of the race being being between Streep and Davis was absurd. Close was the one who was truly deserving of the win.

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    Glenn Close should’ve won in 2012 for Albert Nobbs. Why the critics did not back her up and instead chose to support Meryl Streep is beyond me. Close did amazingly with what she had to work with. And she looked the part (a woman living as a man) considering that Close has a naturally mannish face. I suppose that the Academy’s belief that Streep was “overdue” for a 3rd Oscar combined with the campaigning techniques of the Weinstein company was what gave Streep the win. The whole notion of the race being being between Streep and Davis was absurd. Close was the one who was truly deserving of the win.

    I think whenever Close does the “gender-bending” roles, her voice does not sound like she is trying. Her lower vocal range seems limited which does not come off as good in my opinion. I think Streep was deserving, although Rooney was my favorite of the nominees.

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    Halle Berry should have been runner-up behind Marion Cotillard in 2007 for “Things We Lost In The Fire.”

    That was one hell of a performance.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    Halle Berry should have been runner-up behind Marion Cotillard in 2007 for “Things We Lost In The Fire.”

    That was one hell of a performance.

    Totally agree, but I think that only you, me and 4 more people saw this movie.

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    Ivo Stoyanov
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    Glenn Close should’ve won in 2012 for Albert Nobbs. Why the critics did not back her up and instead chose to support Meryl Streep is beyond me. Close did amazingly with what she had to work with. And she looked the part (a woman living as a man) considering that Close has a naturally mannish face. I suppose that the Academy’s belief that Streep was “overdue” for a 3rd Oscar combined with the campaigning techniques of the Weinstein company was what gave Streep the win. The whole notion of the race being being between Streep and Davis was absurd. Close was the one who was truly deserving of the win.

    It is pretty obvious that the two best actresses were Mara and Davis, time has proved that since their roles (and movies) are the only memorable and still talked today. And the third was Tilda Swinton for We Need to Talk About Kevin, one of those “nomination phantom” in the sense that many people believe that she was actually nominated (same goes for DiCaprio for Django or Adams for Arrival). The other two great and still unrecognized performances that year were Theron in Young Adult and Olivia Colman in Tyrannosaur, I recommend the last one to all of you who are discovering Colman this year.

    I want to clarify that I do not want to rest merit of the performances of Williams, Close and Streep, they are all good, but not the best that year in my opinion.

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    The reason why I am so passionate about Halle’s win is due to the fact that I knew women like her character. It seemed so real. Some women I knew growing up went through hell and some choices these women made went because of their pain.

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