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    You are right, I mixed up years. Sam Rockwell did win that year. I still think Chalamet could have beaten Rockwell that year (just my opinion). How is Rockwell even supporting in 3BB? He is to 3BB what Timothee is to CMBYN, in terms of screen time. Harrelson is the true supporting role. I wasn’t trying to reinvent the wheel or anything. This was something I had been thinking about for the past few days, and I figured I would post it. Depending on where you are in the world, its still early. Someone could post something more ridiculous lol.

    I apologize for being extremely blunt, it’s just that I disagree with everything you said. It’s honestly nothing personal, I’m sure you’re a perfectly nice person. But as someone who despises category fraud, your comment really pissed me off. Anyway, Rockwell’s role is clearly smaller than Chalamet’s. Chalamet was in pretty much every single scene in that film, while Rockwell’s storyline doesn’t get as much focus as McDormand’s. I believe Rockwell is a big supporting role, that maybe slightly borders on lead since he gets much more attention than the non-McDormand cast members, but ultimately not enough to elevate him to lead. Chalamet is the only character that could be considered a lead in his film. He is practically the definition of a lead. The entire film revolves around his character, and he gets way more focus and development than anyone else. Sometimes the biggest role can be reasonably pushed to supporting when the film is an ensemble piece, but this movie clearly is not. There’s really only 3 characters of much note. Armie Hammer is clearly the second biggest role, but virtually all of his screen time is alongside Chalamet, and his role doesn’t get anywhere near as much development. Michael Stuhlbarg gets more focus than the other supporting roles, and of course gets to deliver one of the greatest monologues of all time, but his part really isn’t all that big. Chalamet is by far the biggest part. He is the lead. There’s no way around it. Putting him into supporting is wrong. Anyway, we’ll see if someone posts something more ridiculous. Like you said, it’s early. And anything can happen on GoldDerby.

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    thatnerdgreg
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    Well, Harrelson and Rockwell shouldn’t have even been nominated regardless of category placement.

    Harrelson was great, but he shouldn’t have been nominated. Rockwell is my second favorite supporting win of the decade (behind JK Simmons).

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    Harrelson was great, but he shouldn’t have been nominated. Rockwell is my second favorite supporting win of the decade (behind JK Simmons).

    I hated both and thought they were amongst the worst parts of the film lol, but since Rockwell is a popular win, I guess my comment is in the right thread.

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    Harrelson is always great and Rockwell’s win I’ve been waiting for since 1997.
    lol.
    Aside from Chris Cooper that was the best perf from a supporting actor I’ve seen.

    ETA: And Chris Walken, my favorite win in this category.

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    I feel like Greer Garson is one of the overlooked legends of the Golden Age era.

    From 1939-1945, she had 6 Oscar nominations (winning 1), only missing a nomination in 1940. She is tied for having the most consecutive nominations. Plus, she was a Box Office darling in the mid 40s. Garson was likely the biggest star during World War 2, which could have not been easy at all. She earned her 7th Best Actress nomination in 1960.

    When AFI released their list of the 50 Greatest Stars during the Golden Age Era, Garson was not mentioned despite her achievements. Also, her name is not mentioned in the likes of both Hepburn’s, Davis, Bergman, Taylor, Monroe, or even Crawford. I wonder why.?.?

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    She also holds the record for longest acceptance speech for Mrs Miniver. They were pretty pissed with her. Seems to me like a trite reason. But overall she was well liked and admired by her peers.

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    Harrelson is always great and Rockwell’s win I’ve been waiting for since 1997. lol. Aside from Chris Cooper that was the best perf from a supporting actor I’ve seen. ETA: And Chris Walken, my favorite win in this category.

    I’m not a huge fan of Rockwell’s performance but I love to see that you’re not sleeping on Chris Cooper. One of my favorite acting wins of the century and possibly one of the most underrated.

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    I’m not a huge fan of Rockwell’s performance but I love to see that you’re not sleeping on Chris Cooper. One of my favorite acting wins of the century and possibly one of the most underrated.

    He had no ego, and was astonishing. He was the only “real” person in that entire film.

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    Definitely unpopular opinion, but I feel like Angelina Jolie is more of a tabloid star than she is a film star. She has won an Oscar and starred in a few hit movies, but her looks and personal life really made her bigger than ever. When it comes to filmography, I wouldn’t dare compare her to a Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, Jennifer Lawrence, or Scarlett Johansson. She had a few memorable roles, but overall, her filmography is a bit average.

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    Definitely unpopular opinion

    This doesn’t seem unpopular at all

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    Yeah, I thought that was the general consensus about Jolie, she is more famous for her philanthropy, beauty, adoptions, tabloid antics in her early years, romantic relationships than. she is for her filmography. Especially with the public at large, there are a lot of average Americans who can tell you about Angelina’s relationship with Brad Pitt or her adoptions.

    There are not a lot of Americans who have actually seen Girl Interpreted, Changeling, Pushing Tin, By the Sea, In the Land of Blood and Honey, or A Mighty Heart. Most of her blockbuster efforts have been flops, often both critically and commercially, see: Alexander, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow, The Tourist, Lara Croft: Tomb Raider – The Cradle of Life, Beowulf, The Good Shepherd.

    I mean when your biggest hit films are Shark Tale, Maleficent, and Mr. & Mrs. Smith, and a tiny role in the Kung Fu Panda series, and you are still one of the biggest household names in Hollywood, it might not be the films your most famous for.

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    Pixar’s last good movie was Toy Story 3.

     

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    Pixar’s last good movie was Toy Story 3.

    I thought it was their last great film till Coco and Toy Story 4 came out. I actually think Toy Story 4 was better than 3.

    But I did think they had a long run of films after Toy Story 3 where they didn’t release one great film: Brave, Inside Out, Cars 2, Cars 3, The Good Dinosaur, Finding Dory, and Monsters University. None of those were great films to me.

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    Timothee Chalamet should have been placed in supporting actor.

    Chalamet = Rockwell

    I think Rockwell should be a lead actor.

    I feel like you’re contradicting yourself. Anyway, Timothee was definitely more lead than Sam was lead. He’ll win an Oscar one day, so no need for these crazy ideas.

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    Definitely unpopular opinion, but I feel like Angelina Jolie is more of a tabloid star than she is a film star. She has won an Oscar and starred in a few hit movies, but her looks and personal life really made her bigger than ever. When it comes to filmography, I wouldn’t dare compare her to a Julia Roberts, Sandra Bullock, Jennifer Lawrence, or Scarlett Johansson. She had a few memorable roles, but overall, her filmography is a bit average.

    Honey, this is not an unpopular opinion. Some of my friends didn’t even know she was an actress.

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