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November 13, 2020 at 7:33 pm #1203835821
Altho Faye Dunaway’s performance was considered by many a bad one she was the runner up at the NSFC and NYFCC, so she certanly was on the run for an Oscar nomination. Or wasn’t she?
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November 13, 2020 at 7:55 pm #1203835862Dunaway definitely got buzz from what I’ve heard. She even predicted herself to receive a nomination according to her co-star, Rutanya Alda.
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👑Mary Wilson (1944-2021)November 13, 2020 at 8:02 pm #1203835864She won the Razzie for it and everyone hated the movie, so no. There’s no way the Oscars would have considered her. She was an outside shot at best.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 8:18 pm #1203835875She deserved to way more than the winner, who didn’t deserve a nom.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 8:36 pm #1203835890I saw a youtube clip of Dennis Cunningham the critic of WCBS tv in New York at the time doing his Oscar predictions. He had her listed (instead of Susan Sarandon.)
The movie wasn’t as hated as people think. Pauline Kael loved it and helped Dunaway get far at the New York Film Critic’s Awards.
The Academy’s resistance to the performance was said to have stemmed from people voting who actually knew Crawford and didn’t want to believe the abuse allegations. (Survivors weren’t taken as seriously as they are nowadays.) I did see Debbie Reynolds on another youtube clip confirming that she knew Crawford and that she would get drunk and take it out on the oldest kid (Christina.)
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 8:44 pm #1203835909She won the Razzie for it and everyone hated the movie, so no. There’s no way the Oscars would have considered her. She was an outside shot at best.
Plenty of Oscar buzzed projects end up getting Razzie recognition instead (help it even happen this year with Hillbilly Elegy)
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 8:56 pm #1203835917Plenty of Oscar buzzed projects end up getting Razzie recognition instead (help it even happen this year with Hillbilly Elegy)
Like Cats(lmao at that one).
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 8:58 pm #1203835919Plenty of Oscar buzzed projects end up getting Razzie recognition instead (help it even happen this year with Hillbilly Elegy)
Yes, but those are projects that get hyped up as prestigious, and then, once they get a lousy reaction, most of their buzz dies down, and it’s not like they get close to the nod.
Sure her performance had some defenders back then, but it was widely mocked, and even Dunaway went from believing she’d win an Oscar to being mortified once she saw the final project.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 9:58 pm #1203835951Plenty of Oscar buzzed projects end up getting Razzie recognition instead (help it even happen this year with Hillbilly Elegy)
Razzies were odd back then. They nominated movies like The Shining and Dressed to Kill which are highly respected now.
Plus there were the cases of James Coco and Amy Irving getting razzie and Oscar nominations for the same role.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 10:07 pm #1203835955I wish Dunaway would come to terms with the movie. In her book she discuses how it pains her when people tell her how great they thought she was in it (Debra Winger told her she learned how to act from the film.)
I’ve heard Edward Norton praise it too and Dunaway’s whole career in the seventies.
She gave a gung ho full out performance that she thought the director would reign in during the editing. She feels he made it too camp. I still think she went to places that few actresses nowadays would be capable of going.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 10:49 pm #1203836009I can buy the idea that Academy voters felt like “Mommie Dearest” tarnished the legacy of Joan Crawford, someone they knew and admired from Old Hollywood. Taking that out on the film might not have been “fair” to some, but this releasing four years after Crawford’s death was seen as being in poor taste to others.
ReplyCopy URLNovember 13, 2020 at 10:51 pm #1203836011No one hated that performance besides Faye herself.
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November 14, 2020 at 9:57 am #1203836575I feel like they respected Crawford too much to nominate Faye (even if the claims were true they wouldnt risk it at the time). I mean look at Renee Zellwegger in Judy it showed her flaws and all and they gave her an Oscar but again it was 2019 and I would guess that would be a good indication that the Academy has grown since the 80s somewhat. Imagine if you will: its 20whatever and there is a movie about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. And Depp is alive and they get a major star to star in it. Still a big deal avout if what was said is true or not but the guy does an amazing job. Would Johnny’s peers today reward that actor with a nom?
ReplyCopy URLNovember 14, 2020 at 4:54 pm #1203837148I don’t think anyone could do over-the-top as well as Faye. Maybe Piper Laurie.
She was unbelievable but the film was too bad.
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