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    I think Berry’s post Oscar career and the problematic narratives reinforced by Monster’s Ball makes people look at her win more negatively and thus think that it’s not deserved, rather than judging the performance on its own merits. It doesn’t help that Satine from Moulin Rouge and Bridget Jones are quite iconic cinematic characters as well.

     

    I agree So true nicole win for the hours didn’t hold up as well  but her role in moulin rouge was is iconic  but comparing the two performances halle role was so devastating.

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    Unpopular opinion: Moulin Rouge is overrated. Nicole was much better in The Others and deserved a nomination for that instead. Also, Bridget Jones is a memorable role but it should’ve easily been snubbed in favor of a better performance.

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    Let’s not act as if a lot of black people didn’t care for Monster’s Ball or Berry’s win.

    Many people prefer Kidman in The Others. I like Moulin Rouge, but I probably wouldn’t have nominated her for either. My nominees that year would probably be: Naomi Watts, Isabelle Huppert, Sissy Spacek, Renee Zelleweger and Halle Berry. In that order. Then there’s Tilda Swinton, Thora Birch, Nicole Kidman (in either Moulin Rogue or The Others), Audrey Tautou. There was a wealth of reasonable lead actress options that year. Too bad Watts had to be the odd one out.

    And yes, Kidman’s win for The Hours is meh at best.

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    Get real! Sissy Spacek should NOT have won for that awful performance (BARF!). Only white people think that. Halle Berry is a very gifted actress and deserved her Oscar win.

    Lol have you even watched In The Bedroom. Sissy gave a magnificent performance. I don’t mind Halle winning at all…it’s a historic win and she doesn’t deserve any hate for it. But Angela Bassett herself famously slammed the role. Stop creating unnecessary stereotypes such as “only white people think that”. You’re being intellectually dishonest. What are you implying by that? That no white artist voted for Halle Berry 🙄

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    Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde > Renée Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary

    The fact that Naomi Watts was snubbed for Mulholland Drive is criminal.

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    There is still division regarding Berry’s win, especially in the Black community. We are often too hard on one another. Because she wasn’t a slam dunk like MoNique, people fell into the hype of her winning solely because of her race.

    I respect SWV for bringing up the other actresses because I always say, the same pressure that is put on Black actresses should be towards White actresses. What I mean by that is, just like some will constantly drag a Black actress for winning awards they felt were undeserving, they need to do the same to the MANY undeserving White actresses that has won.

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    Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde > Renée Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary

    I forgot about Witherspoon. She would have been a worthy nominee, especially after getting snubbed for Election. I don’t think she’d be in my top 8 though. Like I said, that was a really strong year.

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    Unpopular opinion: Moulin Rouge is overrated. Nicole was much better in The Others and deserved a nomination for that instead. Also, Bridget Jones is a memorable role but it should’ve easily been snubbed in favor of a better performance.

    I am not a Moulin Rouge! love, or a Baz lover in general. Just a personal preference. I thought Nicole was wonderful in The Others.

    As for Halle, I thought she was excellent in a very difficult role. I know the role is controversial, but that’s the fault of the writers. I don’t think it was luck either. As has been said, Halle was on a roll after Dorothy Dandridge. She was in X-Men and was cast in the next Bond movie. Monster’s Ball was her lower budget prestige film with Billy Bob and Heath. She was de-glammed, she got to cry, all the earmarks of an Oscar winning performance.

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    Reese Witherspoon in Legally Blonde > Renée Zellweger in Bridget Jones’s Diary The fact that Naomi Watts was snubbed for Mulholland Drive is criminal.

     

    Who was the weakest among the nominee then?

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    Who was the weakest among the nominee then?

    1. Berry
    2. Spacek
    3. Kidman
    4. Dench
    5. Zellweger

    I would replace Dench & Zellweger with Watts, Witherspoon, Swinton, or Birch.

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    The category was fine. There wasn’t any eh choices like in some years. It’s just a few great performances for snubbed. I fully stand by Zelleweger’s inclusion though. At the time I was rooting for her win.

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    The 25 Best Female Movie Performances of the 21st Century by indiewire.

    From Oscar winners to the frightfully snubbed, comedic high-wire acts to the most hard-hitting of dramas, and everything in between.

    Much has been made about the dearth of strong female roles in contemporary cinema, and the problematic depictions of women in many recent movies, but the past two decades have provided plenty of counterexamples. While the onus is on writers and directors to craft strong female characters, the actresses themselves bring these figures to life, and they’re often the main reason we keep being drawn back to these works.

    In no particular order, our favorite — and we’d like to think the best — female performances of the 21st century.

    Monsters Ball may be largely remembered as the movie that handed the first (and so far only) best actress Oscar to a woman of color and gave Halle Berry the chance to give that famous speech. Sure. But the role itself isn’t too shabby, either. As Leticia, the widow of a convicted prisoner executed by Hank (Billy Bob Thornton), Berry plays a woman drawn to a destructive relationship by pure grief and loneliness. The dreary setting is elevated by the pair’s unusually erotic chemistry, and while Thornton’s reasonably involving as the sort of bitter

    introvert he can play in his sleep, it’s Berry who injects “Monster’s Ball” with the fiery intensity of a lost soul suddenly allowed to unleash her fury on a fresh companion. This unfiltered shot of emotional duress is the one of the most extreme expressions of anguish ever caught on film, and it’s hard to imagine Berry — or anyone else — coming close to it again – Eric Kohn critic at indiewire.

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