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    Make Oscars exciting again.






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    Macca
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    Most, if not all of those people were bad winners, but I understand the sentiment. Chalamet would have won under preferential.

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    CitizenBlake
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    Tbh, they should also introduce ten nominees in each category to make things interesting.

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    Teridax
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    Even though I love any system that can FINALLY give Roger Deakins an Oscar, I’ve been thinking for ages that just having 1 category preferential with ALL the other categories plurality is weird and inconsistent. I actually think that Best Picture should be made a plurality vote again and not the other way around. I still think every Best Picture that has won would have won under a plurality vote, even Moonlight. That is all.

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    Teridax
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    Most, if not all of those people were bad winners, but I understand the sentiment. Chalamet would have won under preferential.

    Disagree with that, there was nothing getting in the way of Gary Oldman’s career Oscar. I believe all of the acting winners were so abnormally locked they would have won under any voting system. Keep dreaming.

    I’m worried Roger Deakins would have lost under preferential because his movie wasn’t a BP nominee (and winner!) like The Shape of Water.

    The Emmys sucked when they had preferential voting and now that they’ve switched to plurality usually choose MUCH more sane and deserving winners, minus the Dinklage S5 win and Martindale’s 2 Emmy-winning CAMEOS. The preferential ballot likely led to Steve Carell never winning an Emmy for the Office! Where is Hugh Laurie’s Emmy for House? It really says something about how badly the preferential ballot f**ked up the Emmys credibility that the only time a Mad Men cast member won was the first year they had plurality voting. Too bad it was for Mad Men’s final season so Moss and Hendricks never had another shot to win for their iconic roles.

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    Joe Burns
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    I’m mad too, but I can take what I can get I guess lol: Moonlight’s win was surprising and would have made an even bigger impact if it wasn’t for that stupid envelope fiasco(the cameras zeroed in on the Best Picture envelope before the show went to commercial lol). Streep’s win wasn’t a huge upset, but it definitely caught a lot of people off-guard who felt that Davis would prevail. And Rylance caused an upset when he beat Stallone.

    All those aren’t like the ones you posted, lol, but at least it’s something.

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    Teridax
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    The less nominees in categories the better, because it makes the nominations themselves more valuable. I think 5 is a solid number and Makeup & Hairstyling is literally the only category that needs to be expanded in my book.

    If you are just watching these awards for mindless shock value and don’t respect the concept of the best and most deserving works of cinematic art getting rewarded as the Oscars are SUPPOSED to do, then you can f**k off. The Oscars are doing amazing right now, even if they didn’t choose all your faves, no one can criticize them for their refreshingly unorthodox and acclaimed choices like The Shape of Water in Best Picture and Get Out for Original Screenplay.

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    Joe Burns
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    Most, if not all of those people were bad winners, but I understand the sentiment. Chalamet would have won under preferential.

    Doubt it- they loved Oldman, Chalamet is too young to be honored for Best Actor just yet, especially against a veteran like Oldman.

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    Joe Burns
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    The less nominees in categories the better, because it makes the nominations themselves more valuable. I think 5 is a solid number and Makeup & Hairstyling is literally the only category that needs to be expanded in my book.

    If you are just watching these awards for mindless shock value and don’t respect the concept of the best and most deserving works of cinematic art getting rewarded as the Oscars are SUPPOSED to do, then you can f**k off. The Oscars are doing amazing right now, even if they didn’t choose all your faves, no one can criticize them for their refreshingly unorthodox and acclaimed choices like The Shape of Water in Best Picture and Get Out for Original Screenplay.

    I really like your sentiment and agree with it, but I have to say that mindless name checking the winners at almost every ceremony isn’t great either and there are a lot of great and highly deserving works of cinematic art that deserved to win Oscars over some very undeserving winners. I was not unhappy about the results this year and was personally very satisfied with The Shape Of Water’s win, but we do need some more upsets like in the old days.

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    Teridax
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    The less nominees in categories the better, because it makes the nominations themselves more valuable. I think 5 is a solid number and Makeup & Hairstyling is literally the only category that needs to be expanded in my book.

    If you are just watching these awards for mindless shock value and don’t respect the concept of the best and most deserving works of cinematic art getting rewarded as the Oscars are SUPPOSED to do, then you can f**k off. The Oscars are doing amazing right now, even if they didn’t choose all your faves, no one can criticize them for their refreshingly unorthodox and acclaimed choices like The Shape of Water in Best Picture and Get Out for Original Screenplay.

    I really like your sentiment and agree with it, but I have to say that mindless name checking the winners at almost every ceremony isn’t great either and there are a lot of great and highly deserving works of cinematic art that deserved to win Oscars over some very undeserving winners. I was not unhappy about the results this year and was personally very satisfied with The Shape Of Water’s win, but we do need some more upsets like in the old days.

    I hate upsets in general because they screw up my predictions. I mean, Gary Oldman wasn’t a bad winner in my opinion. I don’t believe he gave a better performance than either Daniel but he was fine as Churchill. I just don’t ever try to look for perfection with the Oscars. I’m not saying you are, but that whole “very undeserving winners” thing happens about every year. The one that kind of pissed me off was the superficial Dear Basketball winning Animated Short, though the only other nominee I saw was Garden Party and I thought it was meh. Even then, I can still get over Kobe Bryant being an Oscar winner for a forgettable short. For me, none of this years winners made me genuinely angry like Her winning Original Screenplay (unpopular opinion, I know) or especially Brave ROBBING Wreck-it Ralph and ParaNorman for Animated Feature. I still haven’t entirely gotten over that mediocre Brave winning the Oscar, let alone over one of my all-time favorite animated films in Wreck-it Ralph and Laika greatness in ParaNorman.

    I wouldn’t call it “mindless name-checking” if the winners are as genuinely and obviously deserving as Janney, Rockwell, and McDormand were. Even Oldman had many passionate fans of his actual performance in Darkest Hour. If the winners are truly worthy of their recognition, that should be the only thing that matters, regardless of “predictability.”

    You are entitled to your own opinions of course, and that is fine.

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    Darling, I agree with it.

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    Brayden Fitzsimmons
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    The less nominees in categories the better, because it makes the nominations themselves more valuable. I think 5 is a solid number and Makeup & Hairstyling is literally the only category that needs to be expanded in my book.

    If you are just watching these awards for mindless shock value and don’t respect the concept of the best and most deserving works of cinematic art getting rewarded as the Oscars are SUPPOSED to do, then you can f**k off. The Oscars are doing amazing right now, even if they didn’t choose all your faves, no one can criticize them for their refreshingly unorthodox and acclaimed choices like The Shape of Water in Best Picture and Get Out for Original Screenplay.

    I really like your sentiment and agree with it, but I have to say that mindless name checking the winners at almost every ceremony isn’t great either and there are a lot of great and highly deserving works of cinematic art that deserved to win Oscars over some very undeserving winners. I was not unhappy about the results this year and was personally very satisfied with The Shape Of Water’s win, but we do need some more upsets like in the old days.

    I hate upsets in general because they screw up my predictions. I mean, Gary Oldman wasn’t a bad winner in my opinion. I don’t believe he gave a better performance than either Daniel but he was fine as Churchill. I just don’t ever try to look for perfection with the Oscars. I’m not saying you are, but that whole “very undeserving winners” thing happens about every year. The one that kind of pissed me off was the superficial Dear Basketball winning Animated Short, though the only other nominee I saw was Garden Party and I thought it was meh. Even then, I can still get over Kobe Bryant being an Oscar winner for a forgettable short. For me, none of this years winners made me genuinely angry like Her winning Original Screenplay (unpopular opinion, I know) or especially Brave ROBBING Wreck-it Ralph and ParaNorman for Animated Feature. I still haven’t entirely gotten over that mediocre Brave winning the Oscar, let alone over one of my all-time favorite animated films in Wreck-it Ralph and Laika greatness in ParaNorman.

    I wouldn’t call it “mindless name-checking” if the winners are as genuinely and obviously deserving as Janney, Rockwell, and McDormand were. Even Oldman had many passionate fans of his actual performance in Darkest Hour. If the winners are truly worthy of their recognition, that should be the only thing that matters, regardless of “predictability.”

    You are entitled to your own opinions of course, and that is fine.

    I’m a complete Brave stan but yeah it Ralph’s is one of the best-animated films of all time (imo) and Break the Internet will probably lose to Incredibles this year which is even more frustrating

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    Break the Internet will probably lose to Incredibles this year which is even more frustrating

    God, if they will reward another Disney/Pixar, when we have a chance for unusual and insipired winner with Isle of Dogs right in front of our very eyes, I will be furious.

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    I Am The Night
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    I thought I was the only one who think Ralph is one of the best animated film of all time.

    The ending of Wreck It Ralph is on par with masterpieces like Ratatouille and Up for me.

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    Lord Freddy Blackfyre
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    The preferencial ballot has caused that lesser movies triumph over great films (12 Years Slave over Gravity, Spotlight over every other nominee, Moonlight over Manchester By The Sea, The Artist over Hugo)…I find the nomination process more problematic because deserving contenders left out in favor of undeserving nominees like this year James McAvoy, Jake Gylenhall and James Franco out of lead actor in favor of something like Daniel Kaluuya and Denzel Washington neither of which gave an Oscar worthy performance.

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