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  • pacinofan
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    I don’t know why people won’t admit that Get Out is an unusual Oscar contender, and are pretending like people speculating on the chances of the film is a double standard because it’s a movie about black people. It’s a mainstream horror satire. It doesn’t matter if it’s about black or white people, it’s not your typical Oscar movie. Is acknowledging that and being skeptical on its chances such a bad thing?

    My misgivings about “The Shape of Water” are also based purely on the Academy’s usual disdain for genre material. Just as a popular horror film is not Oscar stuff, neither is fantasy/sci-fi. Sci-fi with a heavy dose of sex and nudity, and a dash of gore may be an especially difficult sell with some voters. The satirical and political elements within both films likely help their case with Oscar voters, giving them a veneer of seriousness and timeliness, rather then hinder it but not enough to put them in the winner’s circle. It took very specific circumstances to get “The Silence of the Lambs” and “The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King” to be best picture winners, and I do not think all those issues are aligning for either “Get Out” or “The Shape of Water”.

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    Keth
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    Well, I hope the voters he talked with are in the minority – we did that last year? When I watched “Call Me By Your Name” I didn’t realize I was watching “Moonlight” redux… things that make you go hmmm.. No wonder I usually disagree with Oscar’s choices.

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    H. H.
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    It’s insane to try to say that Moonlight and CMBYN are the same. Both are amazing movies and deserve to stand under their own spotlight.

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    Bee
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    So basically what you’re asking is, as the same question is asked every year when POC are the subject matter of a film, is this only getting recognition because it deals with race?

    I think that’s unfair. This isn’t 12 Years a Slave or Selma or Hidden Figures, typical Oscar movies that happened to deal with race and feature POC. This is a horror satire that premiered in February directed by a comedian in his first time directing. This isn’t usual Oscar fare and so it’s not unreasonable to question its chances, and the author of this thread didn’t mean anything near what you’re insinuating. Stop trying to paint them as something they’re not.

    What do you mean “unfair”? Every time I read or hear a criticism or a questioning of Get Out’s success, the insinuation, implications or outright blatant elephant in the room is “this is only getting this much praise because of race and it’s a trend and people wanna jump on the bandwagon”. And then when confronted, they wanna fall back and act like it wasn’t in their intentions at all.

    And this is no offense to you Miles cause I actually like you but no shit this is an unusual contender. We all know this especially since majority of people here have doubted its chances at the beginning. That’s a given.

    Get Out’s main theme is about RACE, just like those other films (which included civil rights) whether contemporary or not (or Oscar bait).

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    PJ Edwards
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    Yup. Get Out will be critics thing that is going to disappoint at Oscars and BAFTA. Call Me By Your Name never took off with critics and disappointed at precursors so Academy has no reason to give it any extra attention. The stans should have let that one stay as an underdog instead of declaring it a frontrunner for everything and pretending like it was going to win everything.

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    lorelei lor
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    Those motherfuckers..

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    DameAudrey
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    I agree with those Oscar voters.

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    Pulp
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    I hope that turns out to be true about Get Out, I gave up ON CMBYN winning BP a while ago so that’s okay. I still have no idea what will win BP. 3 billboards seems too divisive, maybe Lady Bird, but are they really going to go for a coming of age comedy? It could still be Get Out, but that movie does feel like it’s mostly a critics thing.

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    Makuta Teridax
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    I hope that turns out to be true about Get Out, I gave up ON CMBYN winning BP a while ago so that’s okay. I still have no idea what will win BP. 3 billboards seems too divisive, maybe Lady Bird, but are they really going to go for a coming of age comedy? It could still be Get Out, but that movie does feel like it’s mostly a critics thing.

    Get Out’s dual SAG nods (including for Ensemble) and its ACE Eddie nod both proved that it truly isn’t a critics thing. It is both a mainstream and critical success that deals with social issues, the Oscar voters won’t be able to resist it.

    For your Goldderby Film Awards consideration: Isle of Dogs for every category, especially Music Score for Alexandre Desplat!

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    TheRedBoy
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    “We did that last year” didn’t stop them from giving Best Picture to romantic drama Shakespeare in Love after giving Best Picture to romantic drama Titanic after giving Best Picture to romantic drama The English Patient, but I guess it’s okay when they’re heterosexual love stories.

    I never really had any reasonable expectation of Call Me By Your Name winning anything but Adapted Screenplay, but God I wish it would sweep just to put an end to this ****.

    Anyways, since this thread is actually about Get Out… I wonder how prevalent the “but come on” attitude Harris mentions towards Get Out actually is. I’ve kinda had a feeling it could win BP and Original Screenplay, but if too many voters feel that way…

    So.
    – “but come on…” takes care of Get Out
    – “we did that last year” eliminates Call Me By Your Name
    – “that’s some weird stuff” cancels The Shape of Water
    – “it’s a teen movie” rules out Lady Bird
    – “it’s divisive” nixes Three Billboards

    We’re gonna end up with Dunkirk winning, aren’t we?

    If they really give BP to the basic war film in this year of exciting and unconventional contenders… well, we’ll know it’s the Oscars.

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    pacinofan
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    Mark Harris just tweeted this: “Talking to Oscar voters and the two worst things I’m hearing right now are, “I liked Get Out, but…come on” and “I liked Call Me By Your Name, but we did that last year.” And if they’re saying that to ME, they’re saying it.” That’s that.

    “We did that last year” didn’t stop them from giving Best Picture to romantic drama Shakespeare in Love after giving Best Picture to romantic drama Titanic after giving Best Picture to romantic drama The English Patient, but I guess it’s okay when they’re heterosexual love stories.

    I never really had any reasonable expectation of Call Me By Your Name winning anything but Adapted Screenplay, but God I wish it would sweep just to put an end to this ****.

    Anyways, since this thread is actually about Get Out… I wonder how prevalent the “but come on” attitude Harris mentions towards Get Out actually is. I’ve kinda had a feeling it could win BP and Original Screenplay, but if too many voters feel that way…

    So.
    – “but come on…” takes care of Get Out
    – “we did that last year” eliminates Call Me By Your Name
    – “that’s some weird stuff” cancels The Shape of Water
    – “it’s a teen movie” rules out Lady Bird
    – “it’s divisive” nixes Three Billboards

    We’re gonna end up with Dunkirk winning, aren’t we?

    If they really give BP to the basic war film in this year of exciting and unconventional contenders… well, we’ll know it’s the Oscars.

    My predictions are based on similar logic.

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    We’re gonna end up with Dunkirk winning, aren’t we?

    I’m afraid we are.

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    Joseph
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    Seriously, what’s everyone’s problem with Dunkirk?

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    DameAudrey
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    Seriously, what’s everyone’s problem with Dunkirk?

    I have no problem with Dunkirk. I think it is a great movie. Much better than the overrated Get Out, to be honest.

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    kbfr12
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    We’re gonna end up with Dunkirk winning, aren’t we?

    I just imagined this year’s Best Picture presenter uttering the phrase “And the Oscar goes to Dunkirk,” and I spontaneously fell asleep on my computer.

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