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    Apollo 13 wins PGA + DGA + SAG + CC/SAG Individual for Ed Harris yet ends up losing all of those equivalent categories at the Oscars. It somehow wins Editing despite BAFTA + ACE loss and wins Sound Mixing with BAFTA loss and missing the sound mixing guild.

    Apollo 13 actually won the Cinema Audio Society award. Also the BAFTAs at that time took place after the Oscars.

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    2006 was an awful year for the foreign-language film category in terms of nominees, but I would agree it’s odd that the Del Toro film couldn’t pull off the win. Neither it nor The Lives of Others should have won, mind you, but weird it went the way it did.

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    By the time we reached Oscar night it was predictable, but Birdman winning Best Picture and Best Original Screenplay (it’s most problematic element imo) but not Best Actor for Michael Keaton seems backward.

    Mad Max: Fury Road winning 6 Oscars but losing for Visual Effects is kind of hilarious, but I like how the underdog Ex Machina won this race, even if it was likely a fluke due to vote-splitting among the big-budget contenders. And the other Oscars for Mad Max were very well-deserved.

    The Graduate won Best Director but nothing else, despite the iconic script and performances by Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft. A lone win for directing has not reoccured in over 50 years and I’d wager will never happen again.

    All the King’s Men won Best Picture and two acting awards yet lost for directing and writing to the same film, A Letter to Three Wives.

    The Philadelphia Story won an acting Oscar for James Stewart but not Katharine Hepburn, who gave the film’s most beloved performance by common consensus. It’s widely believed that Stewart’s Oscar was partly to atone for him losing the previous year for Mr Smith Goes to Washington, a view reportedly shared by Stewart himself.

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    By the time we reached Oscar night it was predictable, but Birdman winning Best Picture and Best Original Screenplay (it’s most problematic element imo) but not Best Actor for Michael Keaton seems backward. Mad Max: Fury Road winning 6 Oscars but losing for Visual Effects is kind of hilarious, but I like how the underdog Ex Machina won this race, even if it was likely a fluke due to vote-splitting among the big-budget contenders. And the other Oscars for Mad Max were very well-deserved. The Graduate won Best Director but nothing else, despite the iconic script and performances by Dustin Hoffman and Anne Bancroft. A lone win for directing has not reoccured in over 50 years and I’d wager will never happen again. All the King’s Men won Best Picture and two acting awards yet lost for directing and writing to the same film, A Letter to Three Wives. The Philadelphia Story won an acting Oscar for James Stewart but not Katharine Hepburn, who gave the film’s most beloved performance by common consensus. It’s widely believed that Stewart’s Oscar was partly to atone for him losing the previous year for Mr Smith Goes to Washington, a view reportedly shared by Stewart himself.

    I doubt Mad Max lost VFX due to vote splitting. Star Wars had no real shot since there was a real air of ‘been there done that’, and The Martian and The Revenant didn’t really have a shot either. The former wasn’t popular enough and the latter didn’t have showy enough VFX. I think Ex Machina won because in part because voters liked how innovative and important to the story itself the VFX were, particularly on an indie budget. It was something they had rarely seen before.

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    It is an absurdist farce how does that not win original screenplay over a formula movie like Green Book?

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    Foxcatcher got nominated for directing, writing and acting (x2)and somehow it missed Best Picture in an 8-slot lineup.

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    Any film that got into Director but not Picture in an expanded lineup.

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    I doubt Mad Max lost VFX due to vote splitting. Star Wars had no real shot since there was a real air of ‘been there done that’, and The Martian and The Revenant didn’t really have a shot either. The former wasn’t popular enough and the latter didn’t have showy enough VFX. I think Ex Machina won because in part because voters liked how innovative and important to the story itself the VFX were, particularly on an indie budget. It was something they had rarely seen before.

    The innovation on an indie budget certainly helped Ex Machina become competitive, no doubt, but I would disagree that The Revenant didn’t have any kind of a shot; it was similar to Ex Machina in that it contained one defining vfx character–in this case the bear–and had it won it would’ve followed the current norm of the vfx nominee with the most nominations overall winning. The Martian was certainly popular enough, despite not winning much throughout the season; it simply couldn’t get ahead in any individual category. I never really thought The Force Awakens would win, but all the same I was reluctant to dismiss the highest-earner of the five especially when it won the VES award, was much more critically successful than the Star Wars prequels, and even received an editing nom that many didn’t see coming. My guess is all but perhaps The Martian were competitive in this race.

    But we’re digressing from the main topic here.

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    Star Wars won BAFTA, it was certainly competitive.

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    The fact that Olivia Colman was able to pull of a huge upset in Best Actress while The Favourite won NOTHING else, including categories it was the actual frontrunner in, is pretty weird

    At the time maybe, but not in retrospect. Colman was always the buzziest and most consistently praised element of that film. It was fitting that she be its representative on Oscar night, although that screenplay loss still smarts.

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    My Fair Lady winning 8 Oscars (including Best Picture), but didn’t even receive a Best Actress nomination.

    The Color Purple nominated 11 Oscars (including Best Picture), but didn’t even receive a Best Director nomination.

    Thelma & Louise nominated for 6 Oscars (wins Best Original Screenplay), but didn’t even receive a Best Picture nomination.

    American Beauty winning 5 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Original Score.

    A Beautiful Mind winning 4 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Actor.

    Chicago winning 6 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Director.

    The Shape of Water winning 4 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Actress.

    Green Book winning 3 Oscars (including Best Picture), but didn’t even receive a Best Director nomination.

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    My Fair Lady winning 8 Oscars (including Best Picture), but didn’t even receive a Best Actress nomination. The Color Purple nominated 11 Oscars (including Best Picture), but didn’t even receive a Best Director nomination. Thelma & Louise nominated for 6 Oscars (wins Best Original Screenplay), but didn’t even receive a Best Picture nomination. American Beauty winning 5 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Original Score. A Beautiful Mind winning 4 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Actor. Chicago winning 6 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Director. The Shape of Water winning 4 Oscars (including Best Picture), but loses Best Actress. Green Book winning 3 Oscars (including Best Picture), but didn’t even receive a Best Director nomination.

    It’s widely believed that Hepburn’s snub was due to the whole controversy over Marni Nixon’s dubbing.

    I think Spielberg’s directing snub was the Academy’s way of showing they didn’t actually like The Color Purple all that much, as evidenced by its 0 for 11 shutout.

    Thelma & Louise’s BP snub is pretty inexplicable, it could’ve and should’ve easily bumped out The Prince of Tides.

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    It’s widely believed that Hepburn’s snub was due to the whole controversy over Marni Nixon’s dubbing. I think Spielberg’s directing snub was the Academy’s way of showing they didn’t actually like The Color Purple all that much, as evidenced by its 0 for 11 shutout. Thelma & Louise’s BP snub is pretty inexplicable, it could’ve and should’ve easily bumped out The Prince of Tides.

    The Oscars don’t just give a film they don’t care for 11 nominations.

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    It’s widely believed that Hepburn’s snub was due to the whole controversy over Marni Nixon’s dubbing.

    I think Spielberg’s directing snub was the Academy’s way of showing they didn’t actually like The Color Purple all that much, as evidenced by its 0 for 11 shutout.

    Thelma & Louise’s BP snub is pretty inexplicable, it could’ve and should’ve easily bumped out The Prince of Tides.

    I’m well aware that there were reasons behind the snubs/losses I mentioned, but it’s still pretty weird when you look at the results on paper.

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    Fellowship of the Ring winning 5

    It won 4 Oscars, not 5.

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