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    Human Bartender
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    Nominating Margot Robbie twice just to avoid nominating a person of color was a complete joke.

    Especially cause she does nothing in one of those films.

    Let’s Go Bucks

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    Kathy Bates securing her Oscar slot with just a Globe nod. Yes, I know a clerical error prevented her from SAG inclusion.

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    1988 remains a unique year in that you had two of the acting winners(Kevin Kline and Geena Davis) not even nominated at the globes.

    That’s a strange year all around. It’s the year of the infamous Rob Lowe/Snow White song. I think Geena Davis had to accept right after that. Not sure if there was a commercial or not. I think that is in part why she says in the speech I can’t believe I have to go first. (plus she must have been totally unprepared to win given her odds. She managed a nice speech though.)

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    Terrence Malick’s 2 BP nominees have a combined total 0f 0 BAFTA/GG/SAG/WGA nomination. Literally defying stats for precursors for a BP nomination lol.

     

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    Denzel Washington not getting a single BAFTA nom in his career yet still winning 2 Oscars out of 9 noms

    Make it make sense!!!!

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    Especially cause she does nothing in one of those films.

    And especially when she’s easily outshoned in those films by Margaret Qualley & Kate McKinnon.

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    Denzel Washington not getting a single BAFTA nom in his career yet still winning 2 Oscars out of 9 noms

    An interesting one. I note some people are claiming racism and that may very well be true to some degree. After all we don’t know the real personal views of voting members.

    However, I think that ones of the primary reasons that Denzel Washington has failed to gain any BFTA nominations is that his Oscar nominated films don’t really resonate outside of the US, or more so Europe in general.

    His action films over the years have been huge amongst all international audiences but films like Glory, Malcolm X, Hurricane, Fences simply held little interest to international viewers. Fences for a small intimate drama did excellent box office in the US (nearly $58 million) but died internationally (just under $7).Cry Freedom was nowhere near as popular in 1987/88 as expected, Roman J. Israel, Esq was barely released outside of the US and Training Day was seen as little more than an action thriller. A hit with audiences but a no-goer critical outside the US.

    Even something accessible as Flight did much better in the US than in the rest of the world.

    I do think the perception of Denzel Washington as being a great actor differs from within the US to outside of the US. He is held in high regard in the US but not near as much outside.

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    An interesting one. I note some people are claiming racism and that may very well be true to some degree. After all we don’t know the real personal views of voting members.

    However, I think that ones of the primary reasons that Denzel Washington has failed to gain any BFTA nominations is that his Oscar nominated films don’t really resonate outside of the US, or more so Europe in general.

    His action films over the years have been huge amongst all international audiences but films like Glory, Malcolm X, Hurricane, Fences simply held little interest to international viewers. Fences for a small intimate drama did excellent box office in the US (nearly $58 million) but died internationally (just under $7).Cry Freedom was nowhere near as popular in 1987/88 as expected, Roman J. Israel, Esq was barely released outside of the US and Training Day was seen as little more than an action thriller. A hit with audiences but a no-goer critical outside the US.

    Even something accessible as Flight did much better in the US than in the rest of the world.

    I do think the perception of Denzel Washington as being a great actor differs from within the US to outside of the US. He is held in high regard in the US but not near as much outside.

    Yeah, but while any individual snubs may be accounted for as you described, there’s a clear pattern going on over the years that clearly shows BAFTA is racist, even moreso than Oscars.

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    Yeah, but while any individual snubs may be accounted for as you described, there’s a clear pattern going on over the years that clearly shows BAFTA is racist, even moreso than Oscars.

    For me Fences is the one time there was no excuse on the part of BAFTA for snubbing Denzel, in terms of accessibility/timing/release date. Viola was nominated there and later won for the same film, and while I can understand not wanting to vote for it in screenplay–August Wilson was long-deceased, and the play not heavily adapted–the Denzel snub just makes no sense with that year’s competition. The other times BAFTA ignored him can in part be explained away for the reasons Peg gives in her post.

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    Ed Harris & Marcia Gay Harden missing both Globes & SAG for Pollock.

    R.I.P Chadwick Boseman

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    Da 5 Bloods | Judas & the Black Messiah | Lovers Rock | Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom | Minari | Monsoon | Nine Days | One Night in Miami | Respect | Soul | The Trial of the Chicago 7 | The U.S. vs Billie Holiday | Without Remorse

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    For me Fences is the one time there was no excuse on the part of BAFTA for snubbing Denzel, in terms of accessibility/timing/release date. Viola was nominated there and later won for the same film, and while I can understand not wanting to vote for it in screenplay–August Wilson was long-deceased, and the play not heavily adapted–the Denzel snub just makes no sense with that year’s competition. The other times BAFTA ignored him can in part be explained away for the reasons Peg gives in her post.

    After Joaquin  gave that speech in the Baftas, it might be true they are racists.

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    I don’t think anyone is denying BAFTA’s racism; merely, there are explanations in addition to racism that pertain to Washington’s case.

    And I especially agree with Peg’s assertion that he is an American “thing.” There is a cultural consensus in America that Washington is among the greatest actors in cinema; as a fan, it’s probably hard to hear that much of the rest of the world may not agree.

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    Laura Dern for “Wild”. Reese got BAFTA and SAG, but it didn’t hurt her on receiving an Oscar nomination.

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    I don’t think anyone is denying BAFTA’s racism; merely, there are explanations in addition to racism that pertain to Washington’s case.

    And I especially agree with Peg’s assertion that he is an American “thing.” There is a cultural consensus in America that Washington is among the greatest actors in cinema; as a fan, it’s probably hard to hear that much of the rest of the world may not agree.

    Yeah, I agree. I didn’t mean to contradict.

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    Samantha Morton happening for In America out of nowhere remains my favourite.

    FYC:

    Antonio Banderas and Asier Etxeandia, Dolor y Gloria (Best Actor/Supporting Actor)
    Emily Beecham, Little Joe (Best Actress)
    Ian McKellen and Helen Mirren, The Good Liar (Best Actor/Actress)

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