February 10, 2020 at 11:08 pm #1203342436
Before the ceremony, I thought that it was ridiculous that Ford v Ferrari had gotten a Best Picture nomination since it was so clearly in last place and there was a gulf between it and whatever was in eighth. But not only did it win two Oscars, indicating passion, but it beat both of the Best Picture frontrunners separately, holding off Parasite in editing and 1917 in sound editing. At the least, this legitimized its Best Picture nomination and at best, it suggests that something else was actually luckier to make the cutoff than it was. So what was the ninth Best Picture this year?
It might have just been Ford v Ferrari, seeing as it was only nominated for its editing and sound and there is the odd film like The Great Gatsby that can win multiple Oscars because of the strength of its craft that has nothing to do with its Best Picture position. Little Women won an Oscar, but that was a gimme. It is not like 1917 or Parasite had a legitimate claim to costumes and Little Women had to take it from them. Similarly, the win for Laura Dern seems to say as little about Marriage Story‘s strength as Renée Zellweger’s did for Judy. If the actors were really there for Marriage Story overall, where was the SAG ensemble nomination? It had a deep cast, Netflix behind it and it was in the Best Picture race. Despite excellent reviews, both Little Women and Marriage Story were basically nonstarters in the director race. The latter just completely died in screenplay; the former never remotely materialized in makeup and production design, despite being a period piece. Maybe people wanted something more uplifting than Marriage Story, vaguely like how The Florida Project flopped; Little Women seems to have fallen victim to the same apathy that hit fellow umpteenth adaption of A Star is Born last year.
Little Women and Marriage Story obviously got nominated for screenplay and acting unlike Ford v Ferrari, but Best Picture is not that simple, like how Can You Ever Forgive Me? was locked for its screenplay and both of its acting nominations last year, but never factored into Best Picture. The reverse was true for Black Panther. Foxcatcher was nominated for director, screenplay, lead actor, supporting actor and makeup, but missed Best Picture for Selma, which won its only other nomination in song.February 11, 2020 at 12:54 am #1203342530
Why is Joker not an option?February 11, 2020 at 1:06 am #1203342533
Joker might be 8th or 9th or the first one got eliminated during the tabulation. Who knows!? It leads the nominations but got 2/11. They just love to nominate the movie but not to reward that much. Same as Irishman.February 11, 2020 at 1:17 am #1203342535
Joker led the nominations, was up for director and got into the BAFTA five. The same is basically true of The Irishman and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. There are much stronger cases for the poll options.February 11, 2020 at 1:20 am #1203342540
I wouldn’t be surprised if The Irishman was actually last.February 11, 2020 at 2:28 am #1203342555This post was found to be inappropriate by the moderators and has been removed.February 11, 2020 at 2:52 am #1203342568
um… Joker probably came in 4th or 5th, behind or in front of Jojo. Most pundits at least discussed the idea of Joker winning, even if it was an incredibly long shot.
No one was bringing up Marriage Story except to marvel (heh) at how hard and fast it flopped, and Little Women getting supposed consolation prizes in screenplay and costume.
Let’s not have saltiness get in the way of logic.February 11, 2020 at 2:57 am #1203342570
The Irishman is basically ahead than the three of these and maybe a little higher in order than Joker.February 11, 2020 at 3:41 am #1203342584
I wouldn’t be surprised if The Irishman was actually last.
It didn’t miss a single key nomination unlike 1917, OUATIH and our Best Picture winner. Editing, directing, acting, screenplay, it hit them all. I don’t see how it would be behind Marriage Story and Little Women when the industry clearly didn’t care about either outside of Dern’s career award and that costume award
Best Actress - Viola Davis, Frances McDormand
Best Actor - Delroy Lindo, Chadwick Boseman
Best Supporting Actor - Colman Domingo, Glynn Turman
Best Picture - Nomadland
Best Director - Chloé Zhao
SAG Ensemble - Ma Rainey’s Black Bottom
Best Cinematography - NomadlandFebruary 11, 2020 at 6:22 am #1203342698
I think Marriage Story because I imagine that despite having more consensus support than the others mentioned it would have had the fewest number one votes and so been eliminated first under the preferential ballot.February 11, 2020 at 7:07 am #1203342783
1917‘s unperformance has caused me to rethink the assumption of Ford v Ferrari being in last place. Both movies potentially appeal to similar demographics and it’s quite possible the latter was popular and entertaining enough to siphon off first place votes from the former.
Hell, I’m gonna vote Marriage Story. Little Women seemed more beloved, and Baumbach’s film is not the obvious favourite of either the ‘steak-eaters’ or the younger, more diverse fraction of the Academy, with its LA/NY-centrism and whiteness; a superficial assessment I know, but those are usually the most useful when sizing up the race.February 11, 2020 at 7:10 am #1203342790
Easily Marriage Story. This movie didn’t accomplish anything really.
watch I May Destroy You
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