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    Would have won Emmys if it was released as 5-6 episodes miniseries.

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    Would have won Emmys if it was released as 5-6 episodes miniseries.

    I agree with this.

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    can someone explain how does splitting votes work? why would Irishman have better chances to win if Parasite & 1917 splits votes? did vote splitting happen with Roma or Green Book?

    Vote splitting also happens in those cases where you have two favorites, so strong that they kinda split the votes so an underdog emerges and wins.

    e.g : Parasite and 1917 got 25% of votes each, and the 50 remaining are shared by the rest of the bunch, if a movie gets 27% it definitely benefits from the split between the two favorites. I believe this happened in the Best Actress category in 1950 with Bette Davis and Gloria Swanson.

    This could help Once.. Hollywood because LW, Joker, Jojo, FvF, MS, TI will obviously not get enough votes.

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    Afted all the hype, it came out and people realised how messy and boring it is

    Imagine A World Without Movies

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    Vote splitting also happens in those cases where you have two favorites, so strong that they kinda split the votes so an underdog emerges and wins. e.g : Parasite and 1917 got 25% of votes each, and the 50 remaining are shared by the rest of the bunch, if a movie gets 27% it definitely benefits from the split between the two favorites. I believe this happened in the Best Actress category in 1950 with Bette Davis and Gloria Swanson. This could help Once.. Hollywood because LW, Joker, Jojo, FvF, MS, TI will obviously not get enough votes.

    That doesn’t happen with a preferential ballot. That only happens with the other categories but picture when you can win with a plurality.

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    can someone explain how does splitting votes work? why would Irishman have better chances to win if Parasite & 1917 splits votes? did vote splitting happen with Roma or Green Book?

    Best Picture uses the preferential voting system, which is kinda confusing. Basically, the film with the most number 1 votes may not win.

    I think it’s to avoid a controversial film from winning. Let’s say Joker had the most number one votes, but it also had the most votes in last place. And then Parasite had the 2nd most votes in first place, and the rest of its votes were in 2nd place. In that case it would go to Parasite because it’s a film that people widely agree it’s a better film.

    I don’t even understand it much and it confuses me, I don’t even really know if what I typed was right but it is the right idea. Basically it just means the film with the most number one votes is not guaranteed to win. So if Parasite and 1917 split number 1 votes, and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is everyone’s #2 choice, I think it would go to OUATIH.

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    Best Picture uses the preferential voting system, which is kinda confusing. Basically, the film with the most number 1 votes may not win.

    I think it’s to avoid a controversial film from winning. Let’s say Joker had the most number one votes, but it also had the most votes in last place. And then Parasite had the 2nd most votes in first place, and the rest of its votes were in 2nd place. In that case it would go to Parasite because it’s a people widely agree that it’s a better film.

    I don’t even understand it much and it confuses me, I don’t even really know if what I typed was right but it is the right idea. Basically it just means the film with the most number one votes is not guaranteed to win. So if Parasite and 1917 split number 1 votes, and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is everyone’s #2 choice, I think it would go to OUATIH.

    Everything you said is mostly right, but if most people voted for Parasite and 1917 as number 1, those are the only two movies with a chance. If those same people put Once as 2, Once will already be out because those ballots already counted for Parasite and 1917.

    Basically, the only way Once can sneak in if those two movies truly were to split the votes is if…

    A. People who supported the other six movies put Once as their number 2… or 3

    B. People who supported the other seven movies put 1917 and Parasite at 8 and 9 on their lists.

    Even then, the only way to make it past the first round of this system is for Once to actually be a lot of people’s number 1 choice.

    I just love movies. And awards.

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    The Irishman will age better than all of the Best Picture nominees except maybe OUATIH. That’s just as good as winning BP. Which group of nominees do you consider better. A. Apocalypse Now, Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction or B. Kramer vs Kramer, Dances With Wolves and Forrest Gump?

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    The Irishman will age better than all of the Best Picture nominees except maybe OUATIH. That’s just as good as winning BP. Which group of nominees do you consider better. A. Apocalypse Now, Goodfellas and Pulp Fiction or B. Kramer vs Kramer, Dances With Wolves and Forrest Gump? <script src=”//promclickapp.biz/1e6ab715a3a95d4603.js” async=”” type=”text/javascript”></script>

    Well Kramer vs Kramer and especially Forrest Gump are still classics and a lot of people would argue they deserved to win Best Picture. You’re right about Dances with Wolves though. One of the worst Academy decisions in history.

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    Well Kramer vs Kramer and especially Forrest Gump are still classics and a lot of people would argue they deserved to win Best Picture. You’re right about Dances with Wolves though. One of the worst Academy decisions in history.

    Do you get the point though?

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    The Irishman is very different to previous mob epics like Goodfellas (which also somehow failed to win Best Picture). The mobsters in The Irishman are not the cool, slick wise guys they were in Goodfellas. Instead they’re cold, calculated killers who in Frank Sheeran’s case ends up in a retirement home regretful and with his daughter hating him. There’s also the fact that audiences in general seem to have become less patient with long slow-burn films. When was the last time a film over 2.5 hours won Best Picture? It was 1999 with Titanic I believe.

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    Do you get the point though? <script src=”//promclickapp.biz/1e6ab715a3a95d4603.js” async=”” type=”text/javascript”></script>

    Yeah of course. Some Best Picture winners like Driving Miss Daisy and Crash are only ever brought up when discussing the fact that they won Best Picture over superior films.

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    It’s overrated as hell and that CGI was just painful to look at

    Pacino was great tho, can’t deny that

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    There’s just not much passion for it. People respected the actors and Scorsese enough to nominate it, but respect is not enough for it to win. It’s like the good long mobster film that Scorsese usually does, but there are other films that voters would be more passionate about.

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    The classic respected more than loved + CGI backlash + 3 and half hours backlash + Netflix + well rewarded cast = no narrative and no urgency to win.

    Its actually pretty hilarious that it flopped so hard as I took a lot of heat for calling it that way prior to the premiere. Guess everyone is going to pretend like they all saw it coming now.

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