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    wolfali
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    How do you guys think certain years would be different in nominations? Discuss.

    FYC:

    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Toni Colette and Lupita Nyong’o would’ve been nominated for sure

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    Let’s start with 2019.

    Director

    – Pedro Almodovar, Pain and Glory
    – Joanna Hogg, The Souvenir
    – Bong Joon-Ho, Parasite
    – Ken Loach, Sorry We Missed You
    – Celine Sciamma, Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    – Waad Al-Khateab & Edward Watts, For Sama

    Thoughts: Mendes, Scorsese, Tarantino and Phillips’s movies were all gp fare which probably would have hurt them. The passion for Bong was undeniable that year. The Souvenir was the British critical darling of the year, Portrait of a Lady on Fire was the European one. For Sama won both key BIFA categories.

    Actor

    – Antonio Banderas, Pain and Glory
    – Tom Burke, The Souvenir
    – Adam Driver, Marriage Story
    – Dev Patel, The Personal History of David Copperfield
    – Joaquin Phoenix, Joker
    – Jonathan Pryce, The Two Popes

    Thoughts: Driver and Phoenix were top 2 and Banderas, Burke, Patel and Pryce all delivered performances that either attracted a tonne of passion or were in gritty and independently driven films.

    Actress

    – Awkwafina, The Farewell
    – Jessie Buckley, Wild Rose
    – Adèle Haenel, Portrait of a Lady on Fire
    – Lupita Nyong’o, Us
    – Charlize Theron, Bombshell
    – Renee Zellweger, Judy

    Thoughts: Awkwafina, Buckley and Zellweger speak for themselves and whilst I do think Nyong’o’s film might not have been seen as high brow enough by a jury, there’s no question her performance was one that attracted a tonne of passion. Was tempted to go with Ronan for the second “membership slot” because she seems to be quite respected by the actors branch (they even nominated her for The Lovely Bones) but she surprisingly missed with the London film critics that year whilst Theron made it in.

    Supporting Actor

    – Willem Dafoe, The Lighthouse
    – Hugh Laurie, The Personal History of David Copperfield
    – Anthony Hopkins, The Two Popes
    – Song Kang-ho, Parasite
    – Al Pacino, The Irishman
    – Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

    Thoughts: Wow what a barren category!

    Supporting Actress

    – Laura Dern, Marriage Story
    – Florence Pugh, Little Women
    – Zhao Shuzhen, The Farewell
    – Tilda Swinton, The Personal History of David Copperfield
    – Julie Walters, Wild Rose
    – Cho Yeo-jeong, Parasite

    Thoughts: This is one where not knowing what a long-list of 15 would look like hurts the most. For example does Swinton get long-listed for TPHoDC or The Souvenir? Either way I think she’d have been nominated. Pugh’s LFCC nomination feels telling as to the amount of individual support she had to be top 2 but BAFTA do seem to really like Margot Robbie so who knows. I feel I don’t need to explain Shuzhen, Walters and Yeo-jeong.

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    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    That’s a lot of movies to think about…

    They would’ve probably nominated a couple of high profile performances that came out of Cannes, like Kirsten Dunst in Melancholia, Mads Mikkelsen in The Hunt, Isabelle Huppert in Elle

    Josh O’Connor in God’s Own Country, Florence Pugh in Lady Macbeth

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    Asier Etxeandia should have won for Pain and Glory

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    Swinton, Weerasethakul Memoria, (Best Actress, Director)
    Efira, Rampling, Wilson Benedetta (Best Actress, Supporting Actress/Actor)
    Rapace Lamb (Best Actress)
    Stewart, Hawkins, Spall Spencer (Best Actress, Supporting Actress/Actor)

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    Ok. I’ll just say it. I know many will strongly disagree but if this year’s system was used last year, I believe Carey Mulligan would have been nominated for a BAFTA, and with the BAFTA nomination, I believe she would have gone on to win the Oscar.

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    Whilst Mulligan did lose the London Film Critics award to McDormand, it’s worth mentioning that Promising Young Woman under-performed there whilst it completely over-performed at BAFTA winning British Film over The Father (which performed just as well at the Oscars as it did at the BAFTAs).

    I don’t know whether she would have still won the Oscar had she been nominated for and won the BAFTA but between how much the British film industry seemed to disproportionately favour Promising Young Woman, what was going on over here at the time with the Sarah Everard case and the fact that Mulligan was in a Netflix film that was a massive audience hit in the UK… I don’t think the possibility of her getting nominated at the BAFTAs and winning would have been as implausible as is often stated on here. It’s not like BAFTA haven’t awarded British actors with buzzy Oscar competitive performances before in spite of them losing at the LFCC.

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    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Toni Colette and Lupita Nyong’o would’ve been nominated for sure

    Definitely agree with Nyong’o, but I’m not entirely sure about Colette. She most certainly deserved to and she gave a performance showy enough to make an impact but Hereditary itself was quite a divisive film at the time and was something that I can imagine a jury seeing as more gp fare considering Collette’s status (a bit like with Saint Maud last year).

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    "The Good Fight" and "The Other Two" in all categories.

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    Ok. I’ll just say it. I know many will strongly disagree but if this year’s system was used last year, I believe Carey Mulligan would have been nominated for a BAFTA, and with the BAFTA nomination, I believe she would have gone on to win the Oscar.

    I absolutely agree. It wasn’t ideal that Mulligan was underperforming at other televised precursors but missing BAFTA entirely was the single biggest blow to her campaign. I honestly wonder if it was a small part of the reason that they tweaked the system this year to ‘save’ the top two membership choices from being kicked out by juries, she was likely in that position based on how well PYW did in the longlists.

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    Whilst Mulligan did lose the London Film Critics award to McDormand, it’s worth mentioning that Promising Young Woman under-performed there whilst it completely over-performed at BAFTA winning British Film over The Father (which performed just as well at the Oscars as it did at the BAFTAs).

    I agree. I think people who think McDormand would definitely have won both anyway disregard how much awards races depend upon momentum. Due to her BAFTA snub, Mulligan’s momentum stopped with the critics’ awards, allowing McDormand to become seen as a truly viable option due to being the only one at BAFTA in with a chance at Oscar. In a split race like last year’s was, McDormand was the only one by Oscar voting that had escaped unscathed throughout which, combined with her film being the BP winner, is why I believe she triumphed in the end.

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    Supporting Actor

    – Willem Dafoe, The Lighthouse
    – Hugh Laurie, The Personal History of David Copperfield
    – Anthony Hopkins, The Two Popes
    – Song Kang-ho, Parasite
    – Al Pacino, The Irishman
    – Brad Pitt, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood

    Thoughts: Wow what a barren category!

    Where Michael Ward (Blue Story) placed? I could see him getting in here if frauded here, or possibly another Blue Story performer (Khali Best?).

    Did Parasite also run everybody supporting here as well, because Park Myung-hoon gives the type of performer a jury would eat (and is an actual supporting role).

    Oscars FYC:

    "Lamb" – International Feature and all categories

    "Summer of Soul" – Picture, Film Editing and Documentary Feature

    “The Green Knight” – in all categories

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