April 9, 2015 at 9:53 am #185254
I know there has been a couple of threads asking about whether there should be a voice over/stop motion performance category at the Oscars. But what if there actually was such a category?
Who would now have more wins and nominations?
Who would be the strangest Oscar winner because of this category?
Would it have affected any future win for an Actor?April 9, 2015 at 9:59 am #185256
Some initial thoughts I’ve had:
Would Tom Hanks have won three successive Oscars? After Philadelphia & Forrest Gump, could he have been a three time champ in as many years thanks to Toy Story?
And would Tom Hanks have an extra four career nods, for the three Toy Story films, and for The Polar Express?
Would Peter O’Toole have FINALLY won his competitive Oscar for his role in Ratatouille?
Is there any way that Christopher Plummer would have won an Oscar for Up? And what would that have meant for his win for Beginners if he had won?
Could an actor from Avatar have been nominated, such as Zoe Saldana?
How many Oscar wins & nods would Andy Serkis have?
Would Meryl Streep have ANOTHER career nod, and maybe win, for Fantastic Mr Fox or AI?April 9, 2015 at 10:25 am #185257
It would have been hard to do such a category for a while, but now with a rather strong output of animated films per year plus the advent of stop motion, this category is totally doable — but I think those performances still deserve to be recognized along with the general main categories. I would nominate performances like Robin Williams in Aladdin, James Woods in Hercules, Kevin Spacey in A Bug’s Life, Ralph Fiennes in The Prince of Egypt, Ellen DeGeneres in Finding Nemo, and Peter O’Toole in Ratatouille (that final monologue is a beautiful swan song of his career).
Andy Serkis would probably have several. Probably two for Gollum, one for King Kong, and one or two for Caesar. He at least deserves some kind of larger achievement award for his innovation in the field, even if just from SAG. I bet Steve Carrell could have won for Over the Hedge, as well. And maybe Michael Keaton for Toy Story 3!April 9, 2015 at 10:38 am #185258
Andy Serkis, Tom Hanks for Polar, and Avatar actors wouldn’t be eligiable if they did because they are using their bodies to act too they aren’t voice overs. I think Bradely Cooper would finally be an Oscar winner after Guardians this year unless Ben Kingsley took it with his amazing performance in The BoxtrollsApril 9, 2015 at 10:39 am #185259
Would this just be for animated performances or live-action as well? If live-action performances were also eligible: Scarlet Johansson in “Her” should’ve won in my opinion. Her performance got a LOT of awards buzz, but unfortunately was ruled ineligible in a lot of races (Oscars, Golden Globes). A lot of critics groups gave her nominations for Best Supporting Actress, honorary awards for her voice work, and even some wins for Best Supporting Actress and voice-over performance. If the Oscars had this category, I think she definitely would’ve received a nomination with a high likelihood of winning. It was a rather groundbreaking role to portray an Operating System who’s in a relationship with a human with a lot of emotional depth and complexity.April 9, 2015 at 11:04 am #185260
Surely they would open up this category to stop motion performance as well as voice overs so the likes of Saldana, Hanks in Polar Express and Andy Serkis would be eligible?April 9, 2015 at 1:30 pm #185261
It would be the worst category ever. Plenty of terrible actors have “funny” or “interesting” voices so they can easily be good in a voice-over performance – but I would hate to see them winning Oscars or to call them Oscar-winner Adam Sandler or Oscar-winner Seth Rogen, just because they are good giving their voices to an animation character. This category would also be all about name-checking. If an actor wouldn’t earn Oscars with a normal performance, the Academy would just give it to them in this category. Awful. Just awful. In that moment the Academy will bring this stupid category in, I’m done with the Oscars.April 9, 2015 at 2:11 pm #185262
Oh come on. There are plenty of performances out there that are worthy of Oscars in the voice acting department. But the age old debate is that motion capture and voice over are in no ways the same thing. Andy Serkis shows up to set, uses every muscle in his body and creates a performance. Animated voice over actors show up to work and create characters through their voice only. It just isn’t the same.April 9, 2015 at 3:49 pm #185263
2000: Miranda Lambert, Chicken Run
2001: Eddie Murphy, Shrek
2002: Daveigh Chase, Lilo & Stitch
2003: Ellen DeGeneres, Finding Nemo
2004: Samuel L. Jackson, The Incredibles
2005: Johnny Depp, Corpse Bride
2006: Ian McKellen, Flushed Away
2007: Peter O’Toole, Ratatouille
2008: Dustin Hoffman, Kung Fu Panda
2009: George Clooney, Fantastic Mr. Fox
2010: Ned Beatty, Toy Story 3
2011: Johnny Depp, Rango
2012: John C. Reilly, Wreck-it Ralph
2013: Josh Gad, Frozen
2014: Bradley Cooper, Guardians of the Galaxy
FYC: Ready Player One. Sound Editing, Sound Mixing, Visual Effects, Original Score, Production Design, Director and BEST PICTURE (make it happen Oscars!!)April 9, 2015 at 4:55 pm #185264
I would be fine with this being a special achievement award, like what happened with Planet of the Apes in the 1960s. I don’t know if we would need nominees every year, but the best performances would be recognized, without any need to simply fill out a category with filler nominees.
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Would Idina Menzel be three quarters of the way to the EGOT by now had this category existed and rewarded her for Frozen?April 10, 2015 at 5:58 am #185266
It would have a lot of interesting winners.April 10, 2015 at 8:24 am #185267
I wish this were a true possibility. So many great performances get overlooked because they are either voice over or stop motion. I think a Best Off-Screen Performance should happen!
Some of the best VO/stop motion performances that should have been rewarded:
Zoe Saldana- Avatar
Andy Serkis- Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Scarlett Johansson- Her
Ellen Degeneres- Finding Nemo
Robin Williams- Aladdin
Eddie Murphy- Shrek
Josh Gad- Frozen
Frank Oz- Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back
Andy Serkis- The Lord of the Rings: The Two TowersApril 10, 2015 at 8:29 am #185268
It would be interesting if they were considering actually introducing this, or a similar, category. Especially given the press surrounding the meetings members were allegedly having in order to discuss different ways to bring in the viewers.
Look at the actors and films which have been listed so far, the majority are hugely popular, and could get in some more viewers. Certainly more viewers than if the Best Picture line up were to decrease, which limits the likelihood of big box office successes getting in.
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