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    aahoto
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    Hollywood pandering to racist international film markets is the first issue.

    And enough with the whataboutisms in other posts bringing up other minority groups. The original post was about black actors specifically.

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    Hollywood pandering to racist international film markets is the first issue. And enough with the whataboutisms in other posts bringing up other minority groups. The original post was about black actors specifically.

    It’s a common issue to all minorities, if are Blacks are rejected, the others are likely to get the same treatment.

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    Hollywood pandering to racist international film markets is the first issue. And enough with the whataboutisms in other posts bringing up other minority groups. The original post was about black actors specifically.

    Oh boo hoo hoo, international markets didn’t give a crap about cringe overacting by an overpraised actrss who never clicked with audiences outside of America (we just don’t get the hype OK?) , and an actor whose name nobody knew before donning a spandex and who is far from a legend that he was hastily attempted to make into (and that didn’t work, nobody was fooled), and their terrible movie that was one of the lowest rated debuts for the platform it was release on.

    Whether you like it or not, international members are big part of diversification and will continue to be so. But then, you didn’t count on that catch when you demanded more diversity didn’t you? Joke’s on you.

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    Oh boo hoo hoo, international markets didn’t give a crap about cringe overacting by an overpraised actrss who never clicked with audiences outside of America (we just don’t get the hype OK?) , and an actor whose name nobody knew before donning a spandex and who is far from a legend that he was hastily attempted to make into (and that didn’t work, nobody was fooled), and their terrible movie that was one of the lowest rated debuts for the platform it was release on.

     

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    I can shut up but you still couldn’t make AMPAS vote for sob narratives that tried and failed to hide inferior performances in an inferior movie. heck, you couldn’t even make people watch the show to see if those sob stories would have happy endings (wins). Nobody cared for these performers and their movie, sob story or not. Not viewers, not AMPAS, nobody.

    It’s awesome that 2 actors who didn’t campaign (and one was asleep during the ceremony) won for giving superior performnces while those who begged for wins (or had media and social media beg on their behalf) didn’t. That’s how you win – by delivering the goods. Tough eh?

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    Black performers need to get more r0les with a wider audience, for some reason the Academy only nominates them for a specific type of role such as slave and maid roles, sassy/fun supporting roles or biopics of famous people.

    Give and celebrate Black performers in roles in which their race is not the main narrative of the film and award them for that.

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    Hollywood pandering to racist international film markets is the first issue.

    ???

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    It’s a common issue to all minorities, if are Blacks are rejected, the others are likely to get the same treatment.

    I agree. Remember Asians and Latins(Latins hate the word Latinx) NEVER won Best Actor and Best Actress

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    A lot of these pundits/film Twitter journalists need to be called out too. They write articles perpetuating narratives in favor of non-POC winning but will use those same theories to downplay Black contenders. There’s definitely an agenda to keep the Lead categories pro-White all across the board. And for anyone saying people need to “calm down with the race-related pro-arguments” you are definitely a part of the problem. Why wouldn’t it be nice to see another Black Best Actress winner when there’s only been ONE in the Academy’s 93 year history!? Especially when performances from Goldberg, Bassett, Davis, Sidibe, & Day were all worthy of a win.

    Which pundits are you referring to? As that has not been my impression this season; quite the opposite in fact.

    Part of the reason we’re in this mess is due to pundits and twitter beating a deafening drum all season long that Boseman’s win was undeniable, and that his win could serve to coattail Davis (who had her own narrative going). You need only look at the Gold Derby Experts & Editor pics to see something like 22::3 in favor of Boseman.

    I listen to the podcasts, I read the trades. I know what was being said and unfortunately for them, a lot of younger or newer to the Oscar movie fans on social media bought this narrative, even when more canny watchers were saying, post-nominations and especially post-BAFTA, ‘Hmm wait a sec.’

    The pundits and stans are what wound everyone up into expecting a coronation of sorts. That didn’t happen and now people feel betrayed.

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    Which pundits are you referring to? As that has not been my impression this season; quite the opposite in fact.

    Part of the reason we’re in this mess is due to pundits and twitter beating a deafening drum all season long that Boseman’s win was undeniable, and that his win could serve to coattail Davis (who had her own narrative going). You need only look at the Gold Derby Experts & Editor pics to see something like 22::3 in favor of Boseman.

    I listen to the podcasts, I read the trades. I know what was being said and unfortunately for them, a lot of younger or newer to the Oscar movie fans on social media bought this narrative, even when more canny watchers were saying, post-nominations and especially post-BAFTA, ‘Hmm wait a sec.’

    The pundits and stans are what wound everyone up into expecting a coronation of sorts. That didn’t happen and now people feel betrayed.

    Completely agree, and I would add that it also started with the critics, who hyped the movie too much (it even has higher Metascore than ONIM, Sound of Metal, Judas, PYW… and same as The Father) which started the wave, but then more people started to see the movie and were underwhelmed (which is shown in the disparity between critics and audience scores)

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    Honey, of course Boseman never received Hopkins-level praise.  Chadwick is NOT white.  Duh!

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    Honey, of course Boseman never received Hopkins-level praise. Chadwick is NOT white. Duh!

    To be fair, Hopkins didn’t start getting Hopkins-level praise until well into his 40s, and arguably not until his early 50s. Boseman very well could have had a career like Hopkins’s.

    Then again, you look at someone like Delroy Lindo, who gives a tour-de-force performance in Da 5 Bloods that goes toe-to-toe with Hopkins in The Father, there’s a more straightforward argument pointing to racism.

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    #1204232212

    Lets see how many Latins have been nominated for best lead acting

    José Ferrer (1 win and another nomination)
    Anthony Quinn (2 nominations)
    Demian Bichir (1 nomination)
    Edward James Olmos (1 nomination)


    Fernanda Montenegro (1 nomination)
    Salma Hayek (1 nomination)
    Catalina Moreno Sandino (1 nomination)
    Yalitza Aparicion (1 nomination)
    Hilary Swank (2 wins)

    11 nominations – 3 win

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    they’re dumb ass racist b*thces what more do you need :/

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    Lets see how many Latins have been nominated for best lead acting José Ferrer (1 win and another nomination) Anthony Quinn (2 nominations) Demian Bichir (1 nomination) Edward James Olmos (1 nomination) — Fernanda Montenegro (1 nomination) Salma Hayek (1 nomination) Catalina Moreno Sandino (1 nomination) Yalitza Aparicion (1 nomination) Hilary Swank (2 wins) 11 nominations – 3 win

    Hilary Swank is not latina lmao

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