January 17, 2023 at 8:13 pm #1205250100
There are 3 animated movies that have gotten into the Best Picture category:
Beauty and the Beast, Up, and Toy Story 3.
But ever since the latest rules were amended, none, not even Inside Out, got in.
Inside Out is basically as acclaimed and popular as a movie could be, a massive success at the box office, with $350 million domestically, and a huge success with critics, with 98% on rottentomatoes and a 8.9/10 rating average.
But I guess it would have to even more popular and acclaimed to break through.
Maybe if it was a November release it would have been in voters’ minds more?
And maybe any animated movie needs something like Parasite reviews to get in. A 9.4/10 rating average.
Or maybe it was just a fluke that Inside Out was snubbed.
I’m just trying to figure out a circumstance where this could happen.January 17, 2023 at 8:41 pm #1205250122
Well since you’re asking, I believe a change in attitude has to come re the medium, and put a lid on relegating it solely to their own category.
Some of the very best films are animated. Hand drawn.
Wall-E among others was a best picture contender that year even though it wasn’t nominated for BP.
Anyways, this irks me about the Academy.
The Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteJanuary 17, 2023 at 9:27 pm #1205250134
-Highly original script
-Excellent professional voice actors
-Made for adults or a very strong adult appeal
-An incredible and original song that breaks out, would strengthen the case.
-The actual technical animation will be the least important factor
-Artisnal (not overly computer supported)
For these reasons, it is unlikely to be an American film from a big studio based on the last several years of colour by numbers output.
Here for the comediesJanuary 17, 2023 at 9:39 pm #1205250139
Spirited Away ( which won Best Animated Feature back in 2002) is a kind of a film that deserved to be nominated for Best Picture, and even win it. It is to date the only, hand-drawn and non-English-language film to win Animated Feature.
It is Miyazaki’s magnum opus, and often listed among the greatest films of all time. (#1 on Top Animation Film list, #11 on Top Narrative Feature Films list at Letterboxd)
One of my favourite films of course. But i wonder if the Academy would ever embrace high quality animated films (especially foreign) in Best Picture as a “serious contender”. I can’t see it happening in the future either.January 17, 2023 at 10:03 pm #1205250142
While Spirited Away is better than all the BP nominees that year, it was a solo nominee. I’d be psyched if his upcoming movie made it in, but a more reachable goal would probably be his first writing nom.January 17, 2023 at 11:59 pm #1205250172
One, even at this stage in the entertainment industry, an animated Best Picture winner would need to be a theatrical behemoth as well as an undeniable critical darling. As in, the only people who don’t like the film are either those few who simply prefer just one another animated feature a bit more or are getting slightly annoyed at people propping the film up for how perfect it is. We’re talking a miraculous combination of the critical and commercial heights of, in the case of 2022, Top Gun: Maverick, RRR, The Banshees of Inisherin and Tár;
Two, an animated Best Picture winner would have to sweep the animation categories at every single critics group and guild—Production Design, Editing, VFX, Sound Editing, and Sound Mixing—in addition to winning a majority of Best Picture awards from said critics groups;
Lastly three, an animated Best Picture winner would have to walk away with Best Animated Feature (as in the likes of Meryl Streep not even opening the envelope for DDL’s Best Actor win for 2012’s Lincoln), be a strong frontrunner for Best Original or Adapted Screenplay, and also receive unprecedented (as of this reply) nominations in Best Director and Best Editing.
Did I miss anything?
Help me manifest this Best Original Song category at the 95th Oscars!:
(contenders as of end of November)
"Dragon Commander" (Inu-oh)
"Good Tonight" (The Bad Guys)
"Hold My Hand" (Top Gun: Maverick)
"Lucky Ducks" (The Bob's Burgers Movie)
"Naatu Naatu" (RRR: Rise, Roar, Revolt)January 18, 2023 at 1:49 am #1205250207
The only other thing I might add is a voice performance so undeniable/iconic they are the breakout star of the year/breakout performance of the year and that carries an (excellent in all the other ways described) film over the line by sheer force of campaign energy.January 18, 2023 at 3:07 am #1205250241
Simple. It just has to be better than any live action film released that year and it will have to settle for a nomination, never the win.
I despise the way animation is treated as a kids’ genre/medium at all these award shows. The live action “Disney Princesses” last year with their preamble was cringe-worthy. Having a kid present Animated Feature at the Critics’ Choice just a few days ago.
Wall-E, Spirited Away, Beauty and the Beast and The Grave of the Fireflies would be magnificent Best Picture winners.January 18, 2023 at 3:54 am #1205250271
The reason why animated movies rarely get Best Picture nominations is the Actors. They’re the biggest voting group at the Oscars and they probably don’t want to consider voting for movies that they might consider don’t have “real acting”. The directors also seem very against even nominating a director for an animated movie, probably because they don’t consider “giving notes to animators” the same as being on a “real” film set.
Animated movies should get the recognition at the Oscars that they deserve. Soul should have easily been a BP nominee in 2021. Easily. No questions asked. Especially with 10 nominees, 1 of them should be animated if there’s a great animated movie that year (which very often there is).January 18, 2023 at 4:53 am #1205250305
Animated movies should get the recognition at the Oscars that they deserve. Soul should have easily been a BP nominee in 2021. Easily. No questions asked. Especially with 10 nominees, 1 of them should be animated if there’s a great animated movie that year (which very often there is).
Soul was as formulaic as they come, and a bad rip off of Inside Out.
Here for the comediesJanuary 18, 2023 at 5:21 am #1205250328
Needs to be a zeitgeist hit, like Wall-E, UP and Toy Story 3, and in a line up of 10. It doesn’t help that Pixar movies, the ones that can get in, are dropping in quality.January 18, 2023 at 5:33 am #1205250337
When a voiceover performance is actually nominated for an acting Oscar and WINS, then you’ll know that the Academy zeitgeist has shifted to such a degree that we can have a legitimate animated BP Oscar winner. But we’re decades away from that event happening, if ever.January 18, 2023 at 7:16 am #1205250449
Miyazaki said that in his younger age, he used to produce 10 minutes of animation every month, but now his speed has reduced to 1 minute per month. Otherwise we would have got more Ghibli. It sucks that we get heaps of Disney garbage every year which fill up those last slots due to the lack of popular foreign contenders.January 18, 2023 at 8:13 am #1205250540
The only other thing I might add is a voice performance so undeniable/iconic they are the breakout star of the year/breakout performance of the year and that carries an (excellent in all the other ways described) film over the line by sheer force of campaign energy.
Peter O’Toole RATATOUILLE
Ed Asner UP
Angela Landsbury B&TB
I need to do some reminder research because there are others.
The Sunne in Splendour.
I prefer my roses whiteNot now
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.