November 3, 2020 at 4:35 am #1203817504
My girlfriend and I watched “Four weddings and a funeral” the other night. You know, classic romcom. But mid-movie we realized that Andie MacDowell is actually the antagonist: her character willingly and openly cheats on her fiancé/husband and when things don’t work out she sabotages Hugh Grant’s character’s wedding. In the end she gets everything she wants and probably won’t change her ways.
Another movie that comes to mind is Top Gun, where Tom Cruise’s character is an unpredictable egocentric maniac, who kills his best friend, while the official antagonist portrayed by Val Kilmer is a textbook soldier.
What are other movies, where the bad guys win in the end, but it’s not Bond-villain-obvious?November 3, 2020 at 10:03 am #1203817984
Edward Norton in Primal Fear
Juliette Binoche in DamageNovember 3, 2020 at 10:27 am #1203818017
Not sure if I’m getting this right but
Leonard in Memento
Mark Zuckerberg in The Social NetworkNovember 3, 2020 at 11:41 am #1203818094
Henry Hill technically wins in Goodfellas, but he’s such a self pitying asshole that his normal life feels far worse to him than imprisonment. So he wins, but he himself can’t see it. Which is for the best, as it means he still is punished in his own way.November 3, 2020 at 1:37 pm #1203818227
Gone Girl? Tough one to pinpoint a bad guy; both protagonists are pretty terrible.November 3, 2020 at 4:58 pm #1203818383
Is not a movie but the ending of Game of thrones was exactly that, Bran was the villain and he won at the end, he played 4d chess while the others played checkersNovember 3, 2020 at 5:48 pm #1203818419
Is not a movie but the ending of Game of thrones was exactly that, Bran was the villain and he won at the end, he played 4d chess while the others played checkers
Going along with that, Sansa acted like a xenophobe who jumped at the first chance to take power for herself under extremely nonsensical and selfish reasons, which she’s never called out on.November 3, 2020 at 7:25 pm #1203818465
Going along with that, Sansa acted like a xenophobe who jumped at the first chance to take power for herself under extremely nonsensical and selfish reasons, which she’s never called out on.
I totally forgot about Sansa, you’re right, she was another villain. I never thought that I would hate the Starks at the end.November 3, 2020 at 7:58 pm #1203818470
Black Panther — T’Challa ideology shifted and to Erin’s despite the latter dying.November 3, 2020 at 10:38 pm #1203818551
Didn’t you ask the same question in reddit?November 4, 2020 at 6:13 am #1203818739
It was a book before it was a movie, but I felt like Sayuri became a really awful person by the end of Memoires of a Geisha. She ruins Pumpkin’s chance to become the adopted mother of the okiya, which pretty much destroys their friendship in the process. She aligns herself with a Nazi ally just for the money and status protection it gives. And she treats Nobu, a man who literally saved her life and did so much for her, like absolute shit just because of his face, refusing him as her Danna for said Nazi dictator, later having sex with the ambassador just to get him to leave her, and then finally succeeding in making him so angry that he abandons her when The Chairman tells him everything. I know she was treated awfully as a child and lived in a cruel world, but that doesn’t make me feel any less sorry for Pumpkin, Nobu, and all the other good people she hurt just so she could get what she wanted, which was The Chairman.
John's Best of 2020
Best Picture: Soul
Best Direction: The Midnight Sky
Best Actor: Chadwick Boseman
Best Actress: Viola Davis
Best Supporting Actor: Delroy Lindo
Best Supporting Actress: Amanda Seyfried
Best Screenplay: Soul
John's Best of 2021
Best Picture: Nomadland
Best Direction: Nomadland
Best Actor: Lakeith Stanfield
Best Actress: Frances McDormand
Best Supporting Actor: Daniel Kaluuya
Best Supporting Actress: Dominique Fishback
Best Screenplay: Judas and the Black MessiahNovember 5, 2020 at 5:49 am #1203819772
There Will Be Blood
The Wolf of Wall Street
The IrishmanNovember 5, 2020 at 6:12 am #1203819798
The Devil’s Advocate
The Dark Knight
The Silence of The Lambs (both sides win)
No Country for Old Men (nobody wins, but the bad guy doesn’t lose either).
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