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January 22, 2021 at 1:04 pm #1203996590
Yes, there were two times when the Oscars went to the dead guy: Heath Ledger and Peter Finch. Since Chadwick Boseman was so widely loved personally and admired professionally across Hollywood in recent years, it’s tempting to think that he’s invincible this year following his recent death from colon cancer.
I need your help to jog my memory. I’m getting so old that I’ve forgotten any examples, but I vaguely recall now and then grumbling to myself over 30 years of reporting on Hollywood awards: Oh, they’ll obviously just give it to the dead guy” if one was nominated at the Oscars or Emmys. Then I’d be shocked by the ultimate winner, which usually turned out to be a hipster. What are good examples of when dead nominees lost at the Oscars, Globes, SAG or Emmys? I know that it’s happened often … but when?
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January 22, 2021 at 1:12 pm #1203996602Carrie Fisher at the Emmys in 2017 (Best Comedy Guest Actress, “Catastrophe”)
Fred Willard at the Emmys in 2020 (Best Comedy Guest Actor, “Modern Family”)
Lynn Shelton at the Emmys in 2020 (Best Limited/Movie Directing, “Little Fires Everywhere)
There are more, but these are the three I remember off the top of my head.
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January 22, 2021 at 1:14 pm #1203996604I just remember James Dean at the Oscars, he was nominated twice and he lost anyway
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 22, 2021 at 1:16 pm #1203996609What are good examples of when dead nominees lost at the Oscars, Globes, SAG or Emmys? I know that it’s happened often … but when?
Hi Tom! The one that immediately comes to mind is Kathryn Joosten who was nominated in 2012 for the final season of Desperate Housewives and was the sole above the line nomination for the show that year. However she had already won two guest actress awards.
The most recent person I can recall losing at the oscars for a posthumous nomination was Massimo Troisi for Il Postino.
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January 22, 2021 at 2:11 pm #1203996702People who died and lost Emmys
2020
Lynn Shelton (Little Fires Everywhere) – Limited Directing, lost to UnorthodoxFred Willard (Modern Family) – Guest Comedy, lost to Eddie Murphy (SNL)
2017
Carrie Fisher (Catastrophe) – Guest Actress Comedy, lost to Melissa McCarthy (SNL)2012
Kathryn Joosten (Desperate Housewives) – Comedy Supporting Actress, lost to Julie Bowen (Modern Family)
2009
Farrah Fawcett (Farrah’s Story) – Nonfiction Special, lost to 102 Minutes That Changed America
2005
Ossie Davis (The L Word) – Drama Guest Actor, lost to Ray Liotta (ER)
2004
John Ritter (8 Simple Rules) – Comedy Lead Actor, lost to Kelsey Grammer (Fraiser)
2000
Nancy Marchand (The Sopranos) – Drama
Supporting Actress, lost to Allison Janney (The West Wing)1998
Phil Hartman (News Radio) – Comedy Supporting Actor, lost to David Hyde Pierce (Frasier)
1985
Nicholas Colasanto (Cheers) – Comedy Supporting Actor, lost to John Larroquette (Night Court)
1984
Richard Burton (Ellis Island) – Limited Supporting Actor, lost to Karl Madden (Fatal Vision)
For comparison, people who died and won Emmys
2019
Anthony Bourdain (Parts Unknown) – Informational Series or Special (WON)
Anthony Bourdain (Parts Uninowk) – Writing Informational Series (WON)
2018
Anthony Bourdain (Parts Unknown) – Informational Series or Special (WON)
Anthony Bourdain (Parts Uninowk) – Writing Informational Series (WON)
1995
Raul Julia (The Burning Season) – Limited Actor (WOM)1993
Audrey Hepburn (Gardens of the World with Audrey Hepburn) – Informational Programming (WON)
1982
Ingrid Bergman (A Woman Called Golda) – Limited Actress (WON)1977
Diana Hyland (The Boy in the Plastic
Bubble) – Supporting Actress in a Comedy or Drama Special (WOM)1968
Marion Lorne (Bewitched) – Comedy Supporting Actress (WON)1966
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Alice Pearce (Bewitched) – Comedy Supporting Actress (WON)January 22, 2021 at 3:36 pm #1203996761Ralph Richardson posthumously lost Best Supporting Actor at the Oscars in 1984 to Haing S. Ngor.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 22, 2021 at 3:38 pm #1203996764Spencer Tracy, Guess Who’s Coming to Dinner? (1967)
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 22, 2021 at 4:03 pm #1203996794https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/posthumous-emmys-carrie-fisher-kathryn-joosten/
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 23, 2021 at 12:32 am #1203997184https://www.goldderby.com/gallery/posthumous-emmys-carrie-fisher-kathryn-joosten/
Thanks for posting my article from the good old days Chris. See Tom I was of some use!
You can add Jeanne Eagels, The Letter from the second Oscar ceremony and all 7 of the posthumous acting Oscar nominees have been named.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 23, 2021 at 6:35 am #1203997388For Oscars:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_posthumous_Academy_Award_winners_and_nominees
This seems to be comprehensive, so 16 posthumous nominees out of 79 won (just over 20%). 2 out of 8 posthumous acting nominees won.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 23, 2021 at 7:08 am #1203997421James Dean had two nominations and both were posthumous, he lost both.
Anthony Minghella and Sydney Pollack were both nominated BP producers for The Reader, both had died by the time of the ceremony.
August Wilson was nominated for Fences.
ReplyCopy URLJanuary 23, 2021 at 7:30 pm #1203998228J.T. Walsh was posthumously nominated for an Emmy in 1998 for Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Movie for the film “Hope”.
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