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    I mean looking back at it, it is becoming more comprehensible now. Glenn Close vs Olivia Colman a.k.a Overdue narrative vs 10 Oscar nominations coming from a studio who successfully lifted up tons of Oscar winners. It’s not that hard to understand. All the other 3 easily won because they all come from more popular movies among voters.

    Beale street was popular? It bombed on awards season and King still beat Adams who was in a best picture nominee with close to the favourite with nominations.

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    Beale street was popular? It bombed on awards season and King still beat Adams who was in a best picture nominee with close to the favourite with nominations.

    Beale Street was popular, gorgeous and prestigious among voters. Vice didn’t have the prospect of winning anything beside Bale and make-up. Everything else is just coat-tail, including Adams. Many people seem to adore Beale Street more than Vice.

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    She might win supporting out of pity like many of us are thinking. She has no chance if she’s going for 2020 though. Afre Woodard and Erivo are already looking like sure things in best actress and I think the academy might feel like it’s due enough to get another black best actress winner. As for supporting actress, that category has a long list of potential contenders in bigger movies

    I don't know who to STAN yet

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    Beale Street was popular, gorgeous and prestigious among voters. Vice didn’t have the prospect of winning anything beside Bale and make-up. Everything else is just coat-tail, including Adams. Many people seem to adore Beale Street more than Vice.

    No it wasn’t- it just got 3 nominations while Vice got more then double that amount. Beale Street got knocked out by Can You Ever Forgive Me? for second place in Adapted Screenplay and only had chances of winning in Supporting Actress and Score where it lost the latter. Regina won out of support for her work and for her career. The movie didn’t do her any favors in the end.

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    Chelseafc
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    No it wasn’t- it just got 3 nominations while Vice got more then double that amount. Beale Street got knocked out by Can You Ever Forgive Me? for second place in Adapted Screenplay and only had chances of winning in Supporting Actress and Score where it lost the latter. Regina won out of support for her work and for her career. The movie didn’t do her any favors in the end.

    So how did Close lose then?

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    Strangely enough, this whole situation can date back to the 1989 Oscar. Glenn Close vs Jodie Foster a.k.a 8 nomimations + a little overdue narrative vs being snubbed for Taxi Driver. In the end, Jodie Foster strangely won…
    It’s even sadder for Close that she delivered another great performance in Reversal of Fortune but totally ignored by the Academy (they chose to honor Jeremy Irons instead). Like the hell were they thinking…

    Was she campaigned as lead or supporting for Reversal? That would be a confusing role to categorize. She’s in the movie a limited amount but her narrating it makes the role seem bigger.

    It is unfortunate that Foster won. Had they given it to Close then Foster could have just won for Silence of the Lambs instead of having to carry the two time winner thing which like with Sally Field and Tom Hanks cost her nominations in other years (Contact specifically.)

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    So how did Close lose then?

    I mean if Colman had been in supporting, no way in hell Regina would have won. It’s just she’s such a massive contender: she delivered a great showy role and she is in a gigantic Oscar nominees.

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    Was she campaigned as lead or supporting for Reversal? That would be a confusing role to categorize. She’s in the movie a limited amount but her narrating it makes the role seem bigger.

    It is unfortunate that Foster won. Had they given it to Close then Foster could have just won for Silence of the Lambs instead of having to carry the two time winner thing which like with Sally Field and Tom Hanks cost her nominations in other years (Contact specifically.)

    One reason why I would love to see someone wins late in their career. If you notice, you’ll see that most 7+ times nominees tend to win Oscar late in their career. It’s sad that Jodie Foster, Hillary Swank and Sally Field won so early in their career. They didn’t use their full potentials.

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    One reason why I would love to see someone wins late in their career. If you notice, you’ll see that most 7+ times nominees tend to win Oscar late in their career. It’s sad that Jodie Foster, Hillary Swank and Sally Field won so early in their career. They didn’t use their full potentials.

    Yes. Sally Field probably would have been nominated for Steel Magnolias and Forrest Gump had she not been over-rewarded early in her career. Though that year in 1984 they had no choice. All the contenders except Judy Davis had just won. (Lange, Spacek, Redgrave.) They weren’t going to award Davis since she got mixed reviews so they had to give someone an early second.

    Too bad Kathleen Turner didn’t get in for Romancing the Stone. I was just researching that film for an article and it got me to thinking she really was the best that year. (and not even nominated!)

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    So how did Close lose then?

    A variety of reasons but yes the film being a bomb was definitely one of them- Beale Street wasn’t a hit with the Academy but it definitely did better then The Wife and had the literary prestige plus Barry Jenkins directing to make sure it was widely seen enough. The Wife was directed by an unknown and based off a novel that was no household name either. Another reason Close lost is because the film was released too early by Sony Pictures Classics which allowed A Star Is Born and The Favourite to steal Glenn’s thunder as the Best Actress frontrunner. Building up anticipation by releasing the film in October or November would have benefitted Close. But instead the critics overwhelmingly gave their prizes to Colman while Gaga had all the buzz in Hollywood making Glenn fall behind. The Globes gave her a major boost but it wasn’t enough to save her as it seems that not enough Oscar voters cared to watch The Wife or they really do not care for Glenn after all.The latter is partly true as I don’t think the industry felt the need to reward her. They respected her work but not enough to give her a career award as the bulk of her nominations had been 30 years ago while her most recent loss was for a film nobody cared about. When people do win Oscars after constantly being overlooked their losses are normally much more recent(Susan Sarandon, Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Geraldine Page whose 6th and 7th nods occurred fairly recently before her 8th nod and win).Close wasn’t in that category.

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    A variety of reasons but yes the film being a bomb was definitely one of them- Beale Street wasn’t a hit with the Academy but it definitely did better then The Wife and had the literary prestige plus Barry Jenkins directing to make sure it was widely seen enough. The Wife was directed by an unknown and based off a novel that was no household name either. Another reason Close lost is because the film was released too early by Sony Pictures Classics which allowed A Star Is Born and The Favourite to steal Glenn’s thunder as the Best Actress frontrunner. Building up anticipation by releasing the film in October or November would have benefitted Close. But instead the critics overwhelmingly gave their prizes to Colman while Gaga had all the buzz in Hollywood making Glenn fall behind. The Globes gave her a major boost but it wasn’t enough to save her as it seems that not enough Oscar voters cared to watch The Wife or they really do not care for Glenn after all.The latter is partly true as I don’t think the industry felt the need to reward her. They respected her work but not enough to give her a career award as the bulk of her nominations had been 30 years ago while her most recent loss was for a film nobody cared about. When people do win Oscars after constantly being overlooked their losses are normally much more recent(Susan Sarandon, Kate Winslet, Leonardo DiCaprio, Geraldine Page whose 6th and 7th nods occurred fairly recently before her 8th nod and win).Close wasn’t in that category.

    Garbage.

    After the Globes, she was #1 in everybody predictions. She was stronger than Gaga and Colman ever been before the precursors. After the GG, she went on to win a CC and then a SAG, at that moment, her buzz was at its paroxysm, so stop saying it wasn’t that big. Olivia came back in the game after the BAFTAs.

    Had Colman lost the BAFTA, Glenn would have won the Oscar let’s be honest. Doesn’t matter how great Colman was and how many nods her films had, if she had lost to Close or another nominee, she wouldn’t have won in the end. Just like Malek wouldn’t have win if his movie hadn’t  been a major box office hit.

    I honestly thank God because Olivia isn’t an undeserving winner.

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    Garbage. After the Globes, she was #1 in everybody predictions. She was stronger than Gaga and Colman ever been before the precursors. After the GG, she went on to win a CC and then a SAG, at that moment, her buzz was at its paroxysm, so stop saying it wasn’t that big. Olivia came back in the game after the BAFTAs. Had Colman lost the BAFTA, Glenn would have won the Oscar let’s be honest. Doesn’t matter how great Colman was and how many nods her films had, if she had lost to Close or another nominee, she wouldn’t have won in the end. Just like Malek wouldn’t have win if his movie hadn’t been a major box office hit. I honestly thank God because Olivia isn’t an undeserving winner.

    I couldn’t agree more.

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    Garbage.

    After the Globes, she was #1 in everybody predictions. She was stronger than Gaga and Colman ever been before the precursors. After the GG, she went on to win a CC and then a SAG, at that moment, her buzz was at its paroxysm, so stop saying it wasn’t that big. Olivia came back in the game after the BAFTAs.

    Had Colman lost the BAFTA, Glenn would have won the Oscar let’s be honest. Doesn’t matter how great Colman was and how many nods her films had, if she had lost to Close or another nominee, she wouldn’t have won in the end. Just like Malek wouldn’t have win if his movie hadn’t been a major box office hit.

    I honestly thank God because Olivia isn’t an undeserving winner.

    And yet she wasn’t able to win Critics Choice on her own-she had to share it with Lady Gaga and just like you said she lost BAFTA. My point is that she was not able to get a firm grip on the race from early on which left Oscar voters who were more passionate about Colman and not passionate about her the opportunity to vote for Colman instead without feeling that guilty about not going with the sheep mentality in the category.I’m not saying that she didn’t have huge buzz and that it was a fiercely competitive race after the Globes or even after BAFTA. Just that it was never a slam dunk for her.

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    And yet she wasn’t able to win Critics Choice on her own-she had to share it with Lady Gaga and just like you said she lost BAFTA. My point is that she was not able to get a firm grip on the race from early on which left Oscar voters who were more passionate about Colman and not passionate about her the opportunity to vote for Colman instead without feeling that guilty about not going with the sheep mentality in the category.I’m not saying that she didn’t have huge buzz and that it was a fiercely competitive race after the Globes or even after BAFTA. Just that it was never a slam dunk for her.

    What are you talking about? She won GG, SAG, Won CC with Gaga, where was Colman when they shared the win? And she won the Spirit awards. A brit playing a fanous brit winning the Bafta was always expected.

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    What are you talking about? She won GG, SAG, Won CC with Gaga, where was Colman when they shared the win? And she won the Spirit awards. A brit playing a fanous brit winning the Bafta was always expected.

    What was so hard to understand in Joe’s post? It was literally established by everyone on here that that tie was made by the CC so they could cover their ground because they weren’t 100% sure Close would win due to her awards history. A lot of those anonymous ballots showed that people were thinking there was a solid alternative to Close after BAFTA and they chose it. Hence, Close not having a strong foothold among voters despite her other awards. If it was obvious that a British actress was going to win the BAFTA for playing a British queen, then why did several people in this thread predict Close (including yourself)?

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