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    What was so hard to understand in Joe’s post? It was literally established by everyone on here that that tie was made by the CC so they could cover their ground because they weren’t 100% sure Close would win due to her awards history. A lot of those anonymous ballots showed that people were thinking there was a solid alternative to Close after BAFTA and they chose it. Hence, Close not having a strong foothold among voters despite her other awards. If it was obvious that a British actress was going to win the BAFTA for playing a British queen, then why did several people in this thread predict Close (including yourself)?

    I always predicted Colman to win the Bafta. Most people agreed that whoever wins SAG wins the Oscar.

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    Joan988
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    Kellis cut that BS will you! You know I appreciate you.

    Had Colman lost the BAFTA she wouldn’t have won the Oscar. Had the BAFTA went to McCarthy, Close would have won at the end. Her failure is due to the her loss at the BAFTAs, not because there weren’t enough passionates about her.

    Also, Colman was a 100% sure thing at the BAFTA, even Meryl Streep would have lost against Colman there. So don’t do it like she wasn’t favorited there.

    Had Bale won the BAFTA, he would have won the Oscar too. They’re the last precursors to be given. Of course they would help a lot, just like the GG help shaping the nominees.

    And I agreed, the CC were a hot mess this year.

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    Matthew anzalone
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    Close needs to win the bafta in order to win the oscar. Period.

     

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    Chelseafc
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    Kellis cut that BS will you! You know I appreciate you. Had Colman lost the BAFTA she wouldn’t have won the Oscar. Had the BAFTA went to McCarthy, Close would have won at the end. Her failure is due to the her loss at the BAFTAs, not because there weren’t enough passionates about her. Also, Colman was a 100% sure thing at the BAFTA, even Meryl Streep would have lost against Colman there. So don’t do it like she wasn’t favorited there. Had Bale won the BAFTA, he would have won the Oscar too. They’re the last precursors to be given. Of course they would help a lot, just like the GG help shaping the nominees. And I agreed, the CC were a hot mess this year.

    How annoying that the Bafta, a non factor awards show these days that meant nothing för King killed the most overdue actor alive. Hopefully she wins 2 for Boulevard and Hillbilly Elegy!

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    Kellis cut that BS will you! You know I appreciate you.

    Had Colman lost the BAFTA she wouldn’t have won the Oscar. Had the BAFTA went to McCarthy, Close would have won at the end. Her failure is due to the her loss at the BAFTAs, not because there weren’t enough passionates about her.

    Also, Colman was a 100% sure thing at the BAFTA, even Meryl Streep would have lost against Colman there. So don’t do it like she wasn’t favorited there.

    Had Bale won the BAFTA, he would have won the Oscar too. They’re the last precursors to be given. Of course they would help a lot, just like the GG help shaping the nominees.

    And I agreed, the CC were a hot mess this year.

    Lol wait what? I’m not denying that Close would’ve won the Oscar if she won BAFTA (or if someone else did), that Colman wasn’t actually the favorite, or that she had a lack of passionates. While I thought there was no way Colman was losing it, a lot of people were still predicting Close to sweep BAFTA (my comment was in shade of the person’s BAFTA comment when they [and basically this entire thread] had Close as their predicted winner in the prediction center). All I’m saying is that, with Close, there’s always going to be a good amount of people who think others were better, and when BAFTA chose Colman over sweeping, they thought she had finally had a shot and went for it (the ballots showed exactly this and literally said it).

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    How annoying that the Bafta, a non factor awards show these days that meant nothing för King killed the most overdue actor alive. Hopefully she wins 2 for Boulevard and Hillbilly Elegy!

    King winning isn’t hard to understand.

    1. Amy Adams underperformed
    2. Stone was a previous winner, and they weren’t ready to give her a second Oscar that easily ( don’t bring Ali up here, that’s the dumbest win ever.)
    3. De Tavira was never winning.
    4. Weisz was a previous winner in that category , they might wanted to go with someone else this time.
    5. King is a long time working actress, her breakthrough was in TV, she won her third Emmy some months ago and she is known as a really likeable person. She has won every critics circle awards and a GG.

    Close winning two Oscars the same year, would be her black swan. And I’m here for that.

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    Lol wait what? I’m not denying that Close would’ve won the Oscar if she won BAFTA (or if someone else did), that Colman wasn’t actually the favorite, or that she had a lack of passionates. While I thought there was no way Colman was losing it, a lot of people were still predicting Close to sweep BAFTA (my comment was in shade of the person’s BAFTA comment when they [and basically this entire thread] had Close as their predicted winner in the prediction center). All I’m saying is that, with Close, there’s always going to be a good amount of people who think others were better, and when BAFTA chose Colman over sweeping, they thought she had finally had a shot and went for it.

    BAFTA chose Colman for obvious reasons, you know it.

    I’m sure Close would win if only actors branch votes were taking in consideration no matter how « weak » you are assuming she was, and even though Colman had still won the BAFTA.

    But yes, the other branches might have thought just exactly as you said. I agreed. And Colman is nowhere a bad winner so that’s justified.

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    I really wanted her to win this year. After GG, SAG and CC back-to-back wins, it was almost guaranteed (I liked Colman too, though, so I wasn’t disappointed). I think she will do a great job in “Sunset Boulevard” and that Ron Howard Netflix film could secure her a Best Supporting Actress nom. However, I don’t think she will ever win a competitive one, but she has the Honorary one in the bag.

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    I wouldn’t have been shocked if Glenn had won BAFTA- yeah Colman was the frontrunner there but it was definitely possible for Glenn to have been rubber stamped there. When she wasn’t I knew that Colman had a chance to upset but like everybody else I couldn’t picture them snubbing Glenn after the campaign she had.

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    I wouldn’t have been shocked if Glenn had won BAFTA- yeah Colman was the frontrunner there but it was definitely possible for Glenn to have been rubber stamped there. When she wasn’t I knew that Colman had a chance to upset but like everybody else I couldn’t picture them snubbing Glenn after the campaign she had.

    When I looked at Golderby pre-Oscar, I saw that all experts agree that Close would win, as well as most users. While people predicted some upsets in the other categories. Apparently, people were more certain about a Weisz, Grant or Bale’s upset than a Colman’s upset. That, and when I looked at some website’s predictions, most listed Close as the one who will win AND who should win. That’s how strong Close had built up her momentum at that point. I mean this must have been the most unexpected and heart-breaking moment at the Oscar. Even Frances McDormand kinda looked at Close disappointingly and sad when she was presenting the nominees. She had opened the evelope and she knew the winner beforehand.

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    When I looked at Golderby pre-Oscar, I saw that all experts agree that Close would win, as well as most users. While people predicted some upsets in the other categories. Apparently, people were more certain about a Weisz, Grant or Bale’s upset than a Colman’s upset. That, and when I looked at some website’s predictions, most listed Close as the one who will win AND who should win. That’s how strong Close had built up her momentum at that point. I mean this must have been the most unexpected and heart-breaking moment at the Oscar. Even Frances McDormand kinda looked at Close disappointingly and sad when she was presenting the nominees. She had opened the evelope and she knew the winner beforehand.

    Where did you hear that she opened it before?

    If you watch the video Frances looks sort of happy and then opens the envelope and looks sad and quickly looks at Close and then over to Colman who is on the left. Close is in the center with Gaga. Sam Rockwell seems to just look at Close.

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    Where did you hear that she opened it before?

    If you watch the video Frances looks sort of happy and then opens the envelope and looks sad and quickly looks at Close and then over to Colman who is on the left. Close is in the center with Gaga. Sam Rockwell seems to just look at Close.

    Frances was throwing a kiss to Close, and then holding the envelope against her lips looking disappointing as if something bad was gonna happen. She even slightly shook her head. She knew it!

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    Frances was throwing a kiss to Close, and then holding the envelope against her lips looking disappointing as if something bad was gonna happen. She even slightly shook her head. She knew it!

    I think they are only handed the envelope right before they walk on stage. Not sure if there was time for her to peak. Plus people would be watching. Meryl peaked a couple of years ago presenting to Daniel Day-Lewis and kind of ruined the moment. They barely had time to get the five nominees pictures onscreen.

    The producer or the academy president or someone said they weren’t happy that she did that but she’s Meryl so what can you do.

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    I think they are only handed the envelope right before they walk on stage. Not sure if there was time for her to peak.

    The envelope seems to open very easily. Just a single small detail can reveal the whole thing. Something told me Frances knew everything right at that moment.

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    I don’t think she did- she made a weird gesture at Close before they read the nominees and put the envelope up to her lips because she was excited about opening it and wanted to get on with it. Her reaction when she read Colman’s name indicates to me that she was a bit disappointed that Glenn had lost but she ended up saving face and being happy for Colman anyway.

    I hated Meryl saying the name like that but maybe she thought she was doing the nominees a favor.She’s the biggest Oscar loser ever even with her wins and knows how hard it is to have a million people watch you pretend to be happy for somebody else winning although weirdly enough she has had by far the best reactions each time she has lost.She still should have waited a little longer because it ended up disrespecting the other nominees by not showing them all as a group but what can you do? Like you said she’s Meryl.

    Speaking of envelope peeking it’s almost a cinch that F.Murray Abraham opened the envelope with Geraldine Page’s name in it prior to him announcing the winner. You can see this devilish look in his eyes right after he announces Page’s nomination and the crowd is applauding for her.His being overcome with emotion and his “greatest actress” remark may seem to indicate that he didn’t know but I think that it was just him choking up about being the one to actually announce her name.

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