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  • Blanche
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    Why you even bother with him/her.

    Why wouldn´t he? I just made a valid point. Are you stupid?

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    Blanche
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    A valid point? you think because she lost 7 times that means she’s never winning ever? Al Pacino won for a forgettable performance for his 8 try, Geraldine Page, Paul Newman etc… we’ve seen that before.

    The next time she finds herself nominated, people will want her to win even more than they wanted this year. The fact that she lost once again will help a lot for her next tentative. Believe me, we’ll talk about her again for the next Oscars seasons and it won’t be about a loss.

    That’s not what I said.She couldn’t win with any narrative, it’s not just about the amounts of nominations.
    She tried going lead and failed
    She tried going supporting and failed
    She tried with a crazy character and failed
    She tried using the royalty card and failed
    She tried playing her contrary genre and failed
    She tried to use the overdue card and failed
    The only option she has left is living a tragic situation and getting some pity votes.

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    Blanche
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    Leo lost in 2014, when people were saying he’s overdue, but he would win 2 years later. People decided it was about fucking time. He used that overdue narrative again in 2016 and it worked out… That woman isn’t walking out that theater next time she’s invited as a nominee. She has received widespread critical acclaim for TW and managed to win some precursors, for some reasons she lost the Oscar. Next time, there won’t be an Olivia Colman to stop her from winning.

    Leonardo DiCaprio had onlt four acting nominations by the time he was called overdue, no one took that seriously,unlike his fifth.Also, he’s a much bigger star than Glenn.Literally everyone, even non oscar followers, were rooting for him and his biggest competition was the winner from the previous year.
    Glenn will never happen.

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    TheDreamingHead
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    I doubt Glenn can win two Oscars on the same night. The pressure will be too much on her, and the Academy will mess up voting for someone else and make her split. I’d rather have Sunset Boulevard be made and released later than expected so that we can have a decent movie at best to catapult her! Yes the movie and the role is baity, but they also need great time and efforts behind it, not being made pushingly.

    In the near future, the two best shots she has are supporting in Hillbilly Elegy and Four Good Days. And who knows, if Four Good Days turns out to be decent and Close’s performance is decent and long enough, the studio may campaign her as lead instead.

    One thing for sure after her Oscar loss is that she seems smarter in her strategies: kéeping herself relevant and finding more interesting and baity projects. This is impressive coming from someone who is 73 – most people would just let it go and enjoy their elderly life.

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    Joe Burns
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    That’s a completely ridiculous idea. Nobody knows the results of the Oscars besides PriceWaterhouse. And even if it was true why would they decide to pass over Glenn to award The Favourite? The Favourite could have easily been awarded with Best Original Screenplay or some technical wins and that would have been more satisfying to the broader public then Glenn losing which didn’t ignite a huge backlash but in a small group meeting like the one you are describing most likely would not fly.

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    Spike Lee had to win his first Oscar,

    Different category than The Favourite.

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    Screenplay.

    Spike Lee won Adapted Screenplay; The Favourite competed in Original.

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    TheDreamingHead
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    Well, I have Taylor for example. I doubt she won her 1st Oscar because all the Academy members voted for her. There could have been a small group of people that decided they would give it to her. When Gwyneth won, I don’t think Harvey paid the whole academy. But a small group, perhaps the most important persons… aka the board of governors. I assume they have always been deciding the winners to their convenience.

    Hilary literally won the popular vote, but a small group of men decided she won’t be president, in this case we know who they are, but what do you know about the Oscars? Maybe the board operates in the shadow.

    Denzel Washington is also a convincing example. Russell screw his chances at the BAFTA, this doesn’t automatically mean the academy members didn’t vote for him. They could have voted massively, but for some reasons the board decided to punish his behavior, and not be associated with him, so they went with Denzel (which makes me happy btw for obvious reasons). It’s difficult to win BA with no precursor, but suddenly my father Denzel did it.

    Louis B Mayer and Jack Warner are notoriously known for sabotaging Bette Davis and other actresses chances to win.
    What I’m saying is that the winners are the winners, we do know they have won officially, but what about the unofficial part.

    I don’t think there is no specific person to decide the Oscar. Influence yes, decide no. It’s anonimous ballots afterall. It’s the people in other guilds outside the actors’ guild that screwed her up. Notice that in the cases of all the other overdue winners, they were either in a massive Oscar nominated film, or in a weak competetion.

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    She’ll never win.

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    The only way Close will win an oscar is if she gets a disease or something tragic happens to her, like Elizabeth Taylor´s first win. Otherwise, she´s just getting an honorary one.

     

    She played Alex Forrest in Fatal Attraction. Her character was suffering from mental illness ( extreme BPD ) She became a psychopathic stalker and died from strangulation at the end. Her character was misunderstood and needed help.

    Some argued that Fatal Attaction was dark and tragic but Academy didn’t have problem giving awards to Kathy Bates in Misery or Anthony Hopkins in The Silence of the lamb.

    Fatal Attraction  earned 15 X more than it’s budget.

     

     

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    She played Alex Forrest in Fatal Attraction. Her character was suffering from mental illness ( extreme BPD ) She became a psychopathic stalker and died from strangulation at the end. Her character was misunderstood and needed help.

    Some argued that Fatal Attaction was dark and tragic but Academy didn’t have problem giving awards to Kathy Bates in Misery or Anthony Hopkins in The Silence of the lamb.

    Fatal Attraction earned 15 X more than it’s budget.

    That was kind of the problem though. People didn’t realize at the time that the character was highly mentally ill and suffering. The press just made her out to be a villain. That’s why Close didn’t want to film the new ending where she is like the creature from Aliens or Michael Myers and just keeps coming after them. Actually she survives the strangulation and drowning by Michael Douglas and rises up out of the tub like some monster until Anne Archer shoots her.

    The alternate ending is less dramatic but more consistent with borderline personality disorder in that she just kills herself.

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    She’ll never win.

    Was that necessary? She’s not dead yet, and will likely be nominated once more.

    Kathy Bates for Best Supporting Actress (Richard Jewell)

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    Was that necessary? She’s not dead yet, and will likely be nominated once more.

    If there wasn’t enough gas left in the tank to take her all the way last season, why on earth should anyone think there will be in the future? She had the narrative, the televised precursors, and was a surefire winner until Colman (rightfully) snatched BAFTA and Oscar.

    If the majority of the industry wanted her to win, she would have prevailed a few months ago.

    And to answer your question: Yes, which is precisely why I said it.

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    That was kind of the problem though. People didn’t realize at the time that the character was highly mentally ill and suffering. The press just made her out to be a villain. That’s why Close didn’t want to film the new ending where she is like the creature from Aliens or Michael Myers and just keeps coming after them. Actually she survives the strangulation and drowning by Michael Douglas and rises up out of the tub like some monster until Anne Archer shoots her.

    The alternate ending is less dramatic but more consistent with borderline personality disorder in that she just kills herself.

    But then Alex frames Dan for her suicide with his fingerprints all over the murder weapon. That didn’t sit right with me, which is why I preferred the ending they used for the film instead of the alternate ending.

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