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    The alternatives to Scott:

    Melvyn Douglas I Never Sang for My Father
    James Earl Jones The Great White Hope
    Jack Nicholson Five Easy Pieces
    Ryan O’Neal Love Story

    the alternatives to Brando:

    Michael Caine Sleuth
    Laurence Olivier Sleuth
    Peter O’Toole The Ruling Class
    Paul Winfield Sounder

    no one really stands out as an obvious alternative. Probably why they still awarded them. Nowadays I think they would be offended by their declining and give it to someone else.

    Anyone know did Brando announce he’d be declining while voting was still happening? I guess Scott turned down the nomination but Brando just turned down the Oscar.

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    Didnt people know about Brando exactly when Sacheen Littlefeather said he was declining? I think people just thought he hadn’t shown up and simply sent somebody to accept. Not that he would actually decline it.

    And why would I let the person who I know is gonna decline an award inside and tell it directly to people’s screens? Specially if she’s not “important”, meaning she’s not a celebrity who people will pay attention to “when I tell them that they didn’t let me in” or whatever.

    With Scott (and Brando honestly) I can’t imagine anybody else winning.
    I think both were unbeatable and that’s why Scott won even though he had declined already basically. And Brando’s biggest competition was probably Pacino who wasn’t even in that category but it’s where he belongs.

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    Didnt people know about Brando exactly when Sacheen Littlefeather said he was declining? I think people just thought he hadn’t shown up and simply sent somebody to accept. Not that he would actually decline it.

    And why would I let the person who I know is gonna decline an award inside and tell it directly to people’s screens? Specially if she’s not “important”, meaning she’s not a celebrity who people will pay attention to “when I tell them that they didn’t let me in” or whatever.

    With Scott (and Brando honestly) I can’t imagine anybody else winning.
    I think both were unbeatable and that’s why Scott won even though he had declined already basically. And Brando’s biggest competition was probably Pacino who wasn’t even in that category but it’s where he belongs.

    I know the academy knew Little Feather was going to make a speech. They said it was too long. She mentions that in the speech that she can’t address all the issues in the interest of the time but will be happy to do so in the press room.

    So I guess they knew the content of the speech, and I guess that he was declining it. Not sure about that though because Roger Moore starts to hand her the award and she says no. Maybe they just knew she was going to make a speech but not decline the award. I’ll have to look this up.

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    Maybe Nicholson and O’Toole? Totally wild guesses based on absolutely nothing lol. Nicholson was on his second nomination, so maybe it would have been too early, and Douglas would win again later anyways. The narrative surrounding O’Toole had to be building momentum on his fifth nomination, but no one really talks about “The Ruling Class” or this role being peak-O’Toole as the sole nominee from the film. So either Scott and Brando were just so undeniable (my choice) or the field was too weak for anyone else to win (don’t know)? It really speaks to the strength of these iconic performances that they won despite these winners’ curmudgeonly shenanigans. The Academy might not have known about the specific rejections until Oscar night, but there had to be something in the “air” that these guys aren’t into the Oscars anymore and might revolt in some way.

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    Scott had made it clear he would be declining the award. The producer accepted it and congratulated the Academy for voting for Scott. I can see his point. If you are really choosing the best performance you still have to give it to the person even if they don’t want it. (Scott later said he regretted this whole thing. His feelings were hurt because he’d missed out on nominations for a few films so he was bitter and angry at the academy and decided he’d get back at them with this.)

    He won an Emmy in the 80s which is interesting since he presumably allowed his name to be submitted for consideration.

    Come to think of it shortly before he died he attended an Oscar ceremony. He wasn’t even presenting or nominated. I remember them cutting to him in the audience and people were surprised he was there. He also attended a Tony ceremony when he was nominated for that in the 90s.

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    I think the (distant) runner-up to George C. Scott would have been Ryan O’Neal for “Love Story”. The movie was a huge hit and he was great in it. For Marlon Brando I suspect the runner-up was Olivier, though maybe Caine. Paul Winfield was basically a supporting role and “The Ruling Class” was not really that popular. “Sleuth” also received a Best Director nomination which likely meant it just missed out on a Best Picture nomination.

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    It’s not only the fact that Scott was seen or entered at other awards shows (he also won an Emmy and Globe for 12 Angry Men), but even though he rejected the Oscar, he was nominated the very next year again for The Hospital. If I remember correctly, he actually made it known that he would not refuse this nomination and that he wanted it. This according to either Tom’s book or Inside Oscar. I don’t remember where I read that.

    You might want to check that out somewhere, but his regret came pretty quickly it seems.

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