Who will get a second Oscar first – Winslet or Kidman ?

[Drusilla Joined: Apr 9th, 2020 Topics: 3 Posts: 49 View Predictions]

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I’m tempted to say Kidman, only because she works more than Winslet

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[CateNicole Joined: Jun 20th, 2018 Topics: 0 Posts: 1888 View Predictions]

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I think a lot of Kidman’s mid-career lapse was because people were confused about what types of roles she would play now that she’s older, frankly. Basically all of Kidman’s roles in her youth were strongly dependent on her youth. All except for Virginia really rely on the hallmark of being young and beautiful. Satine, Suzanne Maretto, Alice Harford, Ada Monroe, Joanna Eberhart. Contrast that with Streep’s early filmography, in which her characters are much less defined by their age.

Now that Kidman has had a resurgence, primarily led by her roles on TV, people are understanding her place more, and I can only imagine that people are excited to be writing huge roles with her in mind.

FYC: Michaela Coel and Rosamund Pike

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[Drusilla Joined: Apr 9th, 2020 Topics: 3 Posts: 49 View Predictions]

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CateNicole wrote:

I think a lot of Kidman’s mid-career lapse was because people were confused about what types of roles she would play now that she’s older, frankly. Basically all of Kidman’s roles in her youth were strongly dependent on her youth. All except for Virginia really rely on the hallmark of being young and beautiful. Satine, Suzanne Maretto, Alice Harford, Ada Monroe, Joanna Eberhart. Contrast that with Streep’s early filmography, in which her characters are much less defined by their age. Now that Kidman has had a resurgence, primarily led by her roles on TV, people are understanding her place more, and I can only imagine that people are excited to be writing huge roles with her in mind.

Interesting theory.

But do you think Kidman will win a second Oscar before Winslet ?

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[CateNicole Joined: Jun 20th, 2018 Topics: 0 Posts: 1888 View Predictions]

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Drusilla wrote:

Interesting theory. But do you think Kidman will win a second Oscar before Winslet ?

Haha yeah, I’m not really sure. Really depends on the roles! But I’m inclined to say yes.

FYC: Michaela Coel and Rosamund Pike

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[AMG Joined: Sep 20th, 2012 Topics: 168 Posts: 4325 View Predictions]

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My gut says Winslet. She was second only to Alicia Vikander a couple of years ago, and feels more of an ‘event’ actress than Kidman.

Nicole is in more of an experimental phase of her career (Destroyer, Killing of a Sacred Deer, How To Talk To Girls At Parties), while Kate is probably going to be in more Oscar-friendly films. Even her ‘unsuccessful‘ films have had some element of Oscar-bait to them (Wonder Wheel, Blackbird, The Dressmaker).

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[Stank83 Joined: Mar 8th, 2020 Topics: 58 Posts: 1133 View Predictions]

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Kidman, easily.

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[Damucracia Joined: Jan 21st, 2019 Topics: 3 Posts: 130 View Predictions]

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Winslet is more of a transformative actress, and The Academy loves that. And Kidman is becoming more a mother-supporting actress in her latest roles.

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[CateNicole Joined: Jun 20th, 2018 Topics: 0 Posts: 1888 View Predictions]

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AMG wrote:

My gut says Winslet. She was second only to Alicia Vikander a couple of years ago, and feels more of an ‘event’ actress than Kidman. Nicole is in more of an experimental phase of her career (Destroyer, Killing of a Sacred Deer, How To Talk To Girls At Parties), while Kate is probably going to be in more Oscar-friendly films. Even her ‘unsuccessful‘ films have had some element of Oscar-bait to them (Wonder Wheel, Blackbird, The Dressmaker).

But there’s also Lion, Bombshell, and Boy Erased.

Also did anyone see anything about Eggers’ upcoming The Northman??? With Willem (sounds like Eggers has a new muse, along with Anya Taylor-Joy who is also cast) and the Skarsgard brothers. Eggers might finally break into the industry awards convo with this one. I’m inclined to think Kidman’s acting would work well in Eggers’ style.

FYC: Michaela Coel and Rosamund Pike

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[Wanda Joined: Feb 16th, 2019 Topics: 42 Posts: 3499 View Predictions]

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Wisnlet was runner-up twice already. The Oscars like her more and she is in my more baity projects.

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CateNicole wrote:

But there’s also Lion, Bombshell, and Boy Erased.

There is, but in each she has a relatively small role, which makes it even harder for her to break through for an Oscar win nowadays. Winslet is rarely (though not never) a Supporting player in her films any more.

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Damucracia wrote:

Winslet is more of a transformative actress, and The Academy loves that. And Kidman is becoming more a mother-supporting actress in her latest roles.

FYC: Michaela Coel and Rosamund Pike

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[Drusilla]

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I’m curious about the release date of “Ammonite” and its reception. It could be the ticket to a second Oscar win for Winslet. The fact that Saoirse is in it is promising, even though she’s not infallible (“Mary Queen of Scots”).

I have no idea if Nicole has any shot at even a nomination for “The Prom” or “The Northman”.

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Drusilla wrote:

I’m curious about the release date of “Ammonite” and its reception. It could be the ticket to a second Oscar win for Winslet. The fact that Saoirse is in it is promising, even though she’s not infallible (“Mary Queen of Scots”). I have no idea if Nicole has any shot at even a nomination for “The Prom” or “The Northman”.

Ammonite is really interesting. It’s definitely one of my most anticipated movies of 2020. I could see it puling of a Phantom Thread, if it’s really acclaimed like the latter was. My big issue with it is NEON. They only have money to campaign for one movie. So we still have to wait to see wich movies the company acquires. Right now, it’s definitely their bigger player (if it’s indeed acclaimed) and I could Winslet going all the way. Saoirse is also in a very interesting position. She could win. The only thing stopping her is the Hillbilly Elegy girls (or maybe someone we might be sleeping on). Both are way more overdue than her and if Netflix really separates them (wich seems to be the most likely outcome) then I think Saoirse is DOA (if HE is indeed acclaimed).

Regarding Winslet and Kidman, I think Winslet is the more likely to win a second Oscar tbh. Everyone seems to love her and she always seems ‘fresh’, not to mention she has been the runner-up twice – like someone said before (Steve Jobs and Sense & Sensibility). Nicole is definitely taking on more risky and transformative roles but she seems like ‘old news’ idk. I feel like people like her a lot but aren’t necessarily excited about her. Also, I doubt she gets nominated for those movies you mentioned. I’ve heard that her role in The Prom is nothing special and the latter is a Robert Eggers movie. Unless it’s a hit, I really don’t see it getting THAT many nods above the line. Specially after Willem Dafoe’s snub for one of the best supporting performances of the decade.

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[wolfali Joined: Sep 4th, 2018 Topics: 262 Posts: 18885 View Predictions]

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Damucracia wrote:

Winslet is more of a transformative actress, and The Academy loves that. And Kidman is becoming more a mother-supporting actress in her latest roles.

But yeah Kidman only plays traditional mother-daughter roles and isn’t a transformative actress.

FYC OSCARS : PROMISING YOUNG WOMAN IN ALL CATEGORIES (ESP. ACTRESS – Carey Mulligan AND ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY — EMERALD FENNELL), VANESSA KIRBY FOR "PIECES OF A WOMAN", ESSIE DAVIS FOR "BABYTEETH"

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[M: The Original Joined: Aug 5th, 2014 Topics: 61 Posts: 6745 View Predictions]

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Winslet has a broader appeal to Academy members. What’s shocking to me is how often Kidman’s been recognized at SAG as a nominee when her choices are so against the norm of traditional prestige fare.

I suspect Winslet wins a 2nd first since she’s already at 7 nods.

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